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Old 06-01-2013, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Were teenagers killing other teenagers then?
Why does that matter. Killing is killing.
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Old 06-01-2013, 11:25 AM
 
Location: USA
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Were teenagers killing other teenagers then?
Sure they were. Innocent people were getting killed too.

Murder is murder.



Prohibition ended, murder rates dropped.



It's not brain surgery.
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Old 06-01-2013, 11:27 AM
 
Location: N 30° W 89°
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There is no denying that Chicago has issues. However, why is it that Chicago gets singled out in particular? Why do people talk about Chicago more than anywhere else? Ask yourself that.

People talk about crime everywhere...every day. Every city..every state.
chicago has one of the highest crime rates in america and has a special demographic to go along with that...you think people don't notice or won't discuss it?
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Old 06-01-2013, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Why does that matter. Killing is killing.
He said that it was "just as bad".

I think that a community that has kids killing each other rather than becoming educated is worse than an era when adults were mostly the only ones involved in the violence.
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Old 06-01-2013, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You're trying to deflect.
No one said chicago and detroit are the same. They have a crime problem in common with each other....as does every city I mentioned.
No, I was referring about another member who was trying to say Chicago and Detroit were the same. Though the two cities might have the same type of crime problems, the huge difference is Chicago have a thriving economy and all of the neighborhoods except for a few target bad neighborhoods are healthy. Detroit overall is a struggling city with more problem areas than healthy areas.
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Old 06-01-2013, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Prohibition ended, murder rates dropped.



It's not brain surgery.


The drug war should be ended.
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Old 06-01-2013, 11:29 AM
 
Location: USA
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I'm just so sick of Americans acting as if our problems are some epidemic, somehow new, or beyond reason as to how they occur.


It's because WE ARE NOT ADDRESSING OUR PROBLEMS AS A COUNTRY.


This is nothing new. It's an old problem that has surfaced again with new players.
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Old 06-01-2013, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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No, I was referring about another member who was trying to say Chicago and Detroit were the same. Though the two cities might have the same type of crime problems, the huge difference is Chicago have a thriving economy and all of the neighborhoods except for a few target bad neighborhoods are healthy. Detroit overall is a struggling city with more problem areas than healthy areas.
Yes, and I responded to you and made it clear that I did not consider to Chicago or Deetroit to be the same.
Did you somehow miss that one.

I will go do your homework for you (sigh) and post it again.

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I didn't compare them as being as the same.

I said that Chicago is a disaster and before long it will become Detroit.

If something can become something else in the future, then it cannot be the same as that at the present.

This is simple logic.

Put another way - Detroit is in somewhat of a post-disaster state.

Chicago still has time to save itself.
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Old 06-01-2013, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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He said that it was "just as bad".

I think that a community that has kids killing each other rather than becoming educated is worse than an era when adults were mostly the only ones involved in the violence.
Meh, it's pretty much the same to me. All of the murder wouldn't be any better just because these teenagers waited a few more years.
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Old 06-01-2013, 11:30 AM
 
Location: #
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The Chicago issue for a decade now has been about drugs. That's it. Take away the drugs, and suddenly crime plummets.
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