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Old 06-18-2013, 04:43 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Originally Posted by Chicago South Sider View Post
Hey, doesn't Dallas have a double-digit murder rate? The OP should be worried about the city that he lives in.
OP doesn't live in Dallas but they were up slightly to 152 up 13%.
That's still WAY below the 500+ of Chicago.

Dallas murder rate up last year: 152 slayings - Dallas News | myFOXdfw.com
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Old 06-18-2013, 05:55 PM
 
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OP doesn't live in Dallas but they were up slightly to 152 up 13%.
That's still WAY below the 500+ of Chicago.

Dallas murder rate up last year: 152 slayings - Dallas News | myFOXdfw.com
Chicago's population(2011): 2,698,283. Murder rate: 15.9
Dallas population(2011): 1,201,715. Murder rate: 10.9

Granted, Chicago has a higher murder rate than Chicago. However, 500 murders is going to look different in a city of 2.69 million residents than it would in a city of 1.2 million residents.

Washington DC: 17.5 murders per 100,000
Kansas City,KS: 18.4 murders per 100,000
New Orleans,LA: 57.6 murders per 100,000
Baton Rouge,LA: 27.6 murders per 100,000
Detroit,MI: 48.2 murders per 100,000
Flint,MI: 50.8 murders per 100,000
Baltimore, MD: 31.3 murders per 100,000
Kansas City,MO: 23.4 murders per 100,000
St. Louis,MO: 35.3 murders per 100,000
Jackson,MS: 29.9 murders per 100,000
Newark,NJ: 33.8 murders per 100,000
Philadelphia,PA: 21.2 murders per 100,000
Atlanta,GA: 20.7 murders per 100,000
Oakland,CA: 26.3 murders per 100,000
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Old 06-19-2013, 01:34 AM
 
Location: N 30° W 89°
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Chicago's population(2011): 2,698,283. Murder rate: 15.9
Dallas population(2011): 1,201,715. Murder rate: 10.9

Granted, Chicago has a higher murder rate than Chicago. However, 500 murders is going to look different in a city of 2.69 million residents than it would in a city of 1.2 million residents.

Washington DC: 17.5 murders per 100,000
Kansas City,KS: 18.4 murders per 100,000
New Orleans,LA: 57.6 murders per 100,000
Baton Rouge,LA: 27.6 murders per 100,000
Detroit,MI: 48.2 murders per 100,000
Flint,MI: 50.8 murders per 100,000
Baltimore, MD: 31.3 murders per 100,000
Kansas City,MO: 23.4 murders per 100,000
St. Louis,MO: 35.3 murders per 100,000
Jackson,MS: 29.9 murders per 100,000
Newark,NJ: 33.8 murders per 100,000
Philadelphia,PA: 21.2 murders per 100,000
Atlanta,GA: 20.7 murders per 100,000
Oakland,CA: 26.3 murders per 100,000

Look at the demographics of those cities...what do most of them have in common? Why is that?
Is there a correlation?
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Old 06-19-2013, 01:40 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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The powers that be, want this little war in the streets to continue..
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Old 06-19-2013, 01:56 AM
 
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Look at the demographics of those cities...what do most of them have in common? Why is that?
Is there a correlation?
Gunther, I've heard this from you over and over. Unless you can come up with something new, like some solutions to actual problems, then I would have to assume that such a response is an attempt to stir up tension.
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Old 06-19-2013, 04:55 AM
 
Location: N 30° W 89°
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Gunther, I've heard this from you over and over.
...and you'll hear it some more.

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Unless you can come up with something new, like some solutions to actual problems, then I would have to assume that such a response is an attempt to stir up tension.
No. You don't get to set the rules.
The problem is crime, who is committing it and whether or not there are any patterns to be discerned ....you can "assume" whatever you like, as it's just another attempt to sidetrack and deflect.

People commenting on the demographics of crime seems to really distress you.

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Washington DC: 17.5 murders per 100,000
Kansas City,KS: 18.4 murders per 100,000
New Orleans,LA: 57.6 murders per 100,000
Baton Rouge,LA: 27.6 murders per 100,000
Detroit,MI: 48.2 murders per 100,000
Flint,MI: 50.8 murders per 100,000
Baltimore, MD: 31.3 murders per 100,000
Kansas City,MO: 23.4 murders per 100,000
St. Louis,MO: 35.3 murders per 100,000
Jackson,MS: 29.9 murders per 100,000
Newark,NJ: 33.8 murders per 100,000
Philadelphia,PA: 21.2 murders per 100,000
Atlanta,GA: 20.7 murders per 100,000
Oakland,CA: 26.3 murders per 100,000

So..I'll ask you again;
Look at the demographics of those cities...what do most of them have in common regarding criminality? Exactly who is committing the crime? Will you answer or dodge again?
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Old 06-19-2013, 05:09 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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well lets see. they have the strongest anti-gun laws in the country for one.
gee...a connection?


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OK it's only Black gang wars killing each other so no big deal, right ?
People defend Chicago and say it's only a certain part of town.
Yes there may be worse in DC, NOLA, Detroit, Baltimore and a few others

You can deny but Chicago has a serious problem. Why is the drug wars so much worse there than many large cities ?

Gun Violence Rocks Chicago as 8 are Shot in One Day | News | BET
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Old 06-19-2013, 05:35 AM
 
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...and you'll hear it some more.



No. You don't get to set the rules.
The problem is crime, who is committing it and whether or not there are any patterns to be discerned ....you can "assume" whatever you like, as it's just another attempt to sidetrack and deflect.

People commenting on the demographics of crime seems to really distress you.




So..I'll ask you again;
Look at the demographics of those cities...what do most of them have in common regarding criminality? Exactly who is committing the crime? Will you answer or dodge again?
You have already said your answer over and over and over. This is why I am the one asking YOU the questions. If you call that "setting the rules", then so be it. If all you are going to do is repeat "Blacks are violent" over and over, then why should anyone even listen?

What distresses me is your obsession with Blacks. What distresses me is that all you do is talk about Black people and crime. You haven't talked about offering solutions. I talk about that. All you seem to want to push is "Blacks are violent". You don't want to talk about offering solutions. It is a clash. I talk about problems that exist within the Black community and solutions to solve these problems. All you want to talk about it "Black people are violent". No, you did not say that explicitly. You didn't have to. I read between the lines. I've had to learn that dealing with many people. I ask you about your agenda because I want a straight answer from you. It seems like the only purpose you have is to shout "Blacks are violent". My question is "why is that your purpose"? And what solutions are you going to offer to help reduce crime?

I've discussed statistics as far as crime and the Black population goes. However, I know there is more to that statistic that you want to see. All you want to see is "Blacks are violent". I see this: According to the statistics, there is a high murder rate within the Black population. What are the circumstances behind such violence? Which segment of the Black population is committing such violence? Who is being murdered the most? Why does anyone of any race commit murder at all? What are some solutions that can make all people safe(Black people included)? What are the roots to such violence? You see, I see the statistic, and then I ask questions about that statistic. I ask what is driving that statistic. What is the driving force for gang violence in poor, predominantly Black areas? What can be done to stop this? I ask questions because I'm about finding solutions. I haven't seen that from you. My opinion is this: If one is not willing to offer any solutions to a problem, then there is no point in talking about that problem.
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:22 AM
 
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OP doesn't live in Dallas but they were up slightly to 152 up 13%.
That's still WAY below the 500+ of Chicago.

Dallas murder rate up last year: 152 slayings - Dallas News | myFOXdfw.com
OP probably has never been to Chicago, nor Mexico, except either the drug and hooker infested border towns or the cheesy tourist places.
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:26 AM
 
Location: USA
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Look at the demographics of those cities...what do most of them have in common? Why is that?
Is there a correlation?
You ever heard of Al Capone Einstein?


Stupidity should not be tolerated.
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