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Old 06-02-2013, 12:45 AM
 
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However, the influence of these genetic traits are miniscule compared to environment of the individual.

Why is no one answering the question....what difference does it make?
To start, that difference can bring about immensely different societies and communities.
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Old 06-02-2013, 12:47 AM
 
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To start, that difference can bring about immensely different societies and communities.
Please elaborate...
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Old 06-02-2013, 12:48 AM
 
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However, the influence of these genetic traits are miniscule compared to environment of the individual.

Why is no one answering the question....what difference does it make?
Racial appearance gives us cultural information on strangers. By "appearance" I mean a cluster of physical characteristics.

Traits that delineate a white, asian and african person have to all be in play to form a racial appearance.
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Old 06-02-2013, 12:51 AM
 
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lol s/he's going to tell you what I've already told you about how culture forms among homogenous races.
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Old 06-02-2013, 12:56 AM
 
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Genetics --> predisposition to behavior --> appearance = markers delineating possible behavior

Let me break it down for you:

If you're watching the News and you see different black men involved in criminal activity night after night, you might start thinking all black people are criminals.

Is that true? No.
Is it a stereotype? Yes.
Is it right to stereotype others? No.
Did that stereotype begin with some basis in reality? Yes.

The brain makes generalizations. It does so because it is impossible to remember the details of every event of every day. So it groups things together for easier digestion.

So if one constantly hears stories about the high percentage of White men incarcerated for molesting children one might start to think that ALL White men are child molesters.

Is that true? No
Is it a stereotype? Yes
Is it right to stereotype others? No
Did that stereotype begin with some basis in reality? Yes

I always find it interesting that people who attempt to play the racist genetics game NEVER pull examples from their race. It always makes their entire argument suspect.
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Old 06-02-2013, 01:01 AM
 
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lol s/he's going to tell you what I've already told you about how culture forms among homogenous races.
Sorry but that is not accurate for 2013 in most first world countries.

A White American most likely has more in common culturally with a Black American than they have with their ancestors in Europe even though they have some different physical traits from the Black American.
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Old 06-02-2013, 01:01 AM
 
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So if one constantly hears stories about the high percentage of White men incarcerated for molesting children one might start to think that ALL White men are child molesters.

Is that true? No
Is it a stereotype? Yes
Is it right to stereotype others? No
Did that stereotype begin with some basis in reality? Yes

I always find it interesting that people who attempt to play the racist genetics game NEVER pull examples from their race. It always makes their entire argument suspect.
I'm confused. What race do you think I am? And how did you reach that conclusion?
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Old 06-02-2013, 01:01 AM
 
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However, the influence of these genetic traits are miniscule compared to environment of the individual.

Why is no one answering the question....what difference does it make?
No, you are just wrong. Environment is important, but genetics are a major factor, not a minuscule one. Twin studies have shown this and well as large population comparison studies.

Here's one that found significant differences in personality types between East Asian and European males across different cultures:
Culture and Personality Among European American and Asian American Men

There have been numerous other studies that also show this.

Why is is important? Because we have policies in place that operate on the FALSE assumption that all humans groups are exactly identical. These policies cost us billions in lost productivity as we try to force all groups to be exactly the same, when we have no evidence to show that we are. In fact, there are mountains of evidence showing that we aren't, yet we keep ignoring the facts.
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Old 06-02-2013, 01:07 AM
 
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Why is is important? Because we have policies in place that operate on the FALSE assumption that all humans groups are exactly identical. These policies cost us billions in lost productivity as we try to force all groups to be exactly the same, when we have no evidence to show that we are. In fact, there are mountains of evidence showing that we aren't, yet we keep ignoring the facts.
I agree with you. Perhaps a remedy would be to give personality tests to every worker and then treat them in accordance with the results? Rather than trying to fit everyone into the same pigeonhole?
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Old 06-02-2013, 01:13 AM
 
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Look at how Western Europe has developed and the standard of living they enjoy and look at Sub-Saharan Africa. Look at a majority white urban neighborhood, like Chicago's north shore, then look at a majority black one such as Chicago's south side. Look at Haiti, look at the Dominican Republic. I will leave it at that, I have already said something too taboo for most to handle on here. There are general patterns wherever certain specific races inhabit.


And furthermore about your "stereotype" of white child molesters... (Nice, subtle racial insult added in there that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.) You might want to look further into statistics. Whites are underrepresented by about 35% in relation to their population, Asians 67% less than their percentage would suggest, and on the other hand blacks have a 92% greater chance of being a sex offender than their population numbers. Child Abuse Research and Statistics


Rate of child abuse by race:
White = 51%
African American = 25%
Hispanic = 15%
American Indian/Alaska Natives = 2%
Asian/Pacific Islanders = 1%

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