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View Poll Results: Would you vote to end the Drug War?
Yes 102 80.31%
No 20 15.75%
Unsure 5 3.94%
Voters: 127. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-01-2013, 04:25 PM
 
Location: DFW - Coppell / Las Colinas
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Yes with the exceptions of Crystal Meth and Heroin. There are a few related like Oxy that would fall in there also.

Maybe those are by prescription only.
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Old 06-01-2013, 04:27 PM
 
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You think legalization would bring down the price? LOL. Go buy some legal pot in CO, but be prepared to pay almost $200 per ounce, and a lot more for higher quality.
It's a sellers market that is just developing....
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Old 06-01-2013, 04:29 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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~Increased Tax Revenue

~ New legal markets for fully legalized drugs (etc., marijuana)


How you going to tax it, if you are not selling retail?
A cash only business?

The network is set up now, and no one is paying tax. What would change?
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Old 06-01-2013, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Florida
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It's a sellers market that is just developing....
It will get worse. My estimate is that an ounce will cost $300 on average.
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Old 06-01-2013, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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How you going to tax it, if you are not selling retail?
A cash only business?

The network is set up now, and no one is paying tax. What would change?
We'd have to go to a value added tax and put the tax on goods purchased, but that wouldn't catch drug dealers selling from outside the country. It would catch the ones living here.

The only way you're going to cut into the drug cartels at all is to sell the drugs retail but then you'll have break ins and still have a black market. I could also see the drug cartels attacking the drug companies manufacturing drugs to create a demand for their underground product.
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Old 06-01-2013, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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You think legalization would bring down the price from $200 to a few bucks? LOL. Go buy some legal pot in CO, but be prepared to pay almost $200 per ounce, and a lot more for higher quality.
But, at least, you know it's not tainted with chemical waste and human feces....anything to make it weigh more, right? There is no way I'd buy drugs that weren't sold retail. You have no idea what is in them. What idiot trusts a drug dealer to be honest and to adhere to purity standards?
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Old 06-01-2013, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Florida
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But, at least, you know it's not tainted with chemical waste and human feces....anything to make it weigh more, right? There is no way I'd buy drugs that weren't sold retail. You have no idea what is in them. What idiot trusts a drug dealer to be honest and to adhere to purity standards?
Which brings us to the issue of regulation, and cost of regulation. Colorado is already regretting passing the law, because they estimate the cost of regulation will exceed the income from pot-tax, and therefore the non-addicts will have to pay more tax to support the drug habits of the addicts.
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Old 06-01-2013, 04:54 PM
 
Location: planet octupulous is nearing earths atmosphere
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Your links are blogs. I think I have shown you the hard facts three or four times already, and you always come back to ask for it again.

Cardoso, Manuel; Santos, Ana Sofia; Duarte, Óscar (2009). "New Development, Trends and in-depth information on selected issues". - Portugal

http://www.idt.pt/PT/IDT/Documents/P...onalReport.pdf

Reported lifetime use of "all illicit drugs" increased from 7.8% to 12%, lifetime use of cannabis increased from 7.6% to 11.7%, cocaine use more than doubled, from 0.9% to 1.9%, ecstasy nearly doubled from 0.7% to 1.3%, and heroin increased from 0.7% to 1.1%


you must have worked hard to find that bogus study. I see pages and pages of links that say that hard drug use has dropped in Portugal..
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Old 06-01-2013, 05:00 PM
 
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poll says 28 for legalization to 7 against.. looks like more people are coming to their senses. the war on drugs is a total failure, definitely time to try something new..
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Old 06-01-2013, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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poll says 28 for legalization to 7 against.. looks like more people are coming to their senses. the war on drugs is a total failure, definitely time to try something new..
The falacy of your conclusion here is that you will not end the war on drugs by legalizing drugs. Now you'll have to police quality, enforce liability for lack of quality and figure out how to collect taxes... Legalizing drugs, unless they are sold retail only, will do nothing to end the current issues with drug trafficking. We'll just have open competition for drug trafficking and that would be much worse than what we have now.
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