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Old 06-01-2013, 04:21 PM
 
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A modern economy has greatly reduced the demand for factory work in America. Factory work, and later, information-tech work greatly boosted the American economy post the civil-war era. However with outsourcing, the boost that was once there has been given to other nations instead.

How should the average young Americans be preparing themselves to stay relevant in this economy? Compared to those at the top of the food chain (CEOs, etc), the average American does not seem to have enough skills to take advantage of profits increased by efficiency and globalization.
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Old 06-02-2013, 05:30 AM
 
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Bump.

What skill set do the CEOs have now that allow them to take a much bigger slice of the profit pie that the average workers don't?
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Old 06-02-2013, 05:32 AM
 
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What skill set do the CEOs have now that allow them to take a much bigger slice of the profit pie that the average workers don't?
the know how to kiss corporate butt, and whether or not we like it, it's a skill set.
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Old 06-02-2013, 05:34 AM
 
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A modern economy has greatly reduced the demand for factory work in America. Factory work, and later, information-tech work greatly boosted the American economy post the civil-war era. However with outsourcing, the boost that was once there has been given to other nations instead.

How should the average young Americans be preparing themselves to stay relevant in this economy? Compared to those at the top of the food chain (CEOs, etc), the average American does not seem to have enough skills to take advantage of profits increased by efficiency and globalization.
it's easy. learn a trade that requires communication. a trade is a skill they can't take from you. it's not like a huge company teaching you proprietary software. trades have been invaded by illegal immigrants, but if you choose one that requires communication, that will give you a leg up on them.
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Old 06-02-2013, 05:40 AM
 
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Trades are great. It's not easy to outsource when your toilet or air conditioning breaks.

Another thing I think we as consumers need to do is practice a little more of what our competitors do which is country product loyalty.

We need to buy more needed items that we produce in America.
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Old 06-02-2013, 05:42 AM
 
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A modern economy has greatly reduced the demand for factory work in America. Factory work, and later, information-tech work greatly boosted the American economy post the civil-war era. However with outsourcing, the boost that was once there has been given to other nations instead.

How should the average young Americans be preparing themselves to stay relevant in this economy? Compared to those at the top of the food chain (CEOs, etc), the average American does not seem to have enough skills to take advantage of profits increased by efficiency and globalization.
you will compete. Your grand parents (and even parents) got lucky. WW2 leveled the economies of Europe. America stood alone. Now we do not. You will compete.

How you do this is up to you:

Learn local skills: i.e. things that are done local (house building, electrician, plumber, etc)

Or go to school:

Factories in the united states are run by robots, not people. You better know how to run the robots. Engineering degrees is a minimum these days for those jobs

Other college jobs can help, but make sure you have a job in mind. Go to a college where your companies recruit.


I can't say about the Average American.. .and if they have skills to compete or not. Nothing really to do with CEOs. Its the guys in India, China, etc you compete against not CEOs. If you the average American only have a US citizenship as the sole reason to have a job. . .well your not going to fair very well.

Too me, that's completely fair. I don't see why you deserve a job more than someone in China anyway
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Old 06-02-2013, 05:43 AM
 
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it's easy. learn a trade that requires communication. a trade is a skill they can't take from you. it's not like a huge company teaching you proprietary software. trades have been invaded by illegal immigrants, but if you choose one that requires communication, that will give you a leg up on them.
What do you mean by a communication trade?

Just look at the construction business, don't you think they need communication? Yet in my area those building the buildings are not English speakers.
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Old 06-02-2013, 05:44 AM
 
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A modern economy has greatly reduced the demand for factory work in America. Factory work, and later, information-tech work greatly boosted the American economy post the civil-war era. However with outsourcing, the boost that was once there has been given to other nations instead.

How should the average young Americans be preparing themselves to stay relevant in this economy? Compared to those at the top of the food chain (CEOs, etc), the average American does not seem to have enough skills to take advantage of profits increased by efficiency and globalization.
The modern economy hasn't reduced the demand for factory work at all; in fact, it has dramatically increased it. What has happened is that factory work has been shifted out of the US and to low-wage countries with repressive governments (which means no unions) and loose regulations. That's the first point.

The second point is that the so-called "skills gap" that supposedly accounts for the US's persistently high unemployment since 2008 is a myth. If high unemployment is due to a long-term, structural problem like a skills gap, why was unemployment in the period immediately preceding the crash so low?

No, the problem doesn't lie with the "average young American." The problem is a corporatist system that has grown far too powerful to control and which does not serve to enhance the well-being of the vast majority of the population. Challenging that system is a political issue, a collective struggle, a long-term, complex problem. It is not an issue that any lone individual can solve.
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Old 06-02-2013, 05:46 AM
 
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Bump.

What skill set do the CEOs have now that allow them to take a much bigger slice of the profit pie that the average workers don't?
CEO skill set would normally require something very different than any average worker,and not a normal job for the "Average" american to compete for

1) Ivy League and/or prestigious school (not always but. . )

2) secondary education depending on company (P&G, you better have a Marketing MBA)

3) you better be great at corporate politic. Navigating 500 companies are. . .a skill in itself.


OR

start your own company, probably a lot easier path than the above
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Old 06-02-2013, 05:49 AM
 
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The modern economy hasn't reduced the demand for factory work at all; in fact, it has dramatically increased it. What has happened is that factory work has been shifted out of the US and to low-wage countries with repressive governments (which means no unions) and loose regulations. That's the first point.

The second point is that the so-called "skills gap" that supposedly accounts for the US's persistently high unemployment since 2008 is a myth. If high unemployment is due to a long-term, structural problem like a skills gap, why was unemployment in the period immediately preceding the crash so low?

No, the problem doesn't lie with the "average young American." The problem is a corporatist system that has grown far too powerful to control and which does not serve to enhance the well-being of the vast majority of the population. Challenging that system is a political issue, a collective struggle, a long-term, complex problem. It is not an issue that any lone individual can solve.

This I don't buy, and I've been working for fortune 500 companies since 2000.

Companies are like water. They flow where value is highest, cost is less


if the Average American doesn't have the value (skills + local + salary) they won't be employed

that isn't a complex problem. You either compete (with your value) or you stay home


trying to create artificial walls that force companies to take lower value workers is a temporary solution that never works.
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