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Old 06-02-2013, 10:39 AM
 
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Originally Posted by EmeraldCityWanderer View Post
I think the OP is just projecting.

People are asking questions and expressing their concerns about what the OP proposes, and instead of addressing the questions or responding to the concerns in any cogent way...he's just screaming insults, and that everyone who doesn't agree with him is some terrible person. That is true deflection, and it is really sad to watch how the OP is the only one not seeing that their own behavior is exactly what they are exclaiming against.
NONE of you have even remotely addressed the OP. All you've offered is deflection about how someone can spend their own money or how someone may or may not have a political point of view.

The OP is about NONE of those topics. The OP is about the OBJECTIVITY OF THE IRS EMPLOYEES IN QUESTION.....considering that most donations from the IRS....and the Cincinnati office specifically.....went to Barack Obama and Democrats.

Since NONE of you are capable of addressing the topic at hand, I have no choice but to conclude that you're either 1) ignorant 2) lack reading comprehension skills or 3) seek to defend this President and his Administrations at all costs, including your own credibility.

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Old 06-02-2013, 10:44 AM
 
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In the context of discussion, what he said was 100% irrelevant. He resorted in to making up **** to deflect from the topic at hand. Since you seem to get where he's coming from, I surmise that you too have nothing to offer except more deflection.
No it was not irrelevant it's just something you don't care to listen to.

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NONE of you have even remotely addressed the OP. All you've offered is deflection about how someone can spend their own money or how someone may or may not have a political point of view.

The OP is about NONE of those topics. The OP is about the OBJECTIVITY OF THE IRS EMPLOYEES IN QUESTION.....considering that most donations from the IRS....and the Cincinnati office specifically.....went to Barack Obama and Democrats.

Since NONE of you are capable of addressing the topic at hand, I have no choice but to conclude that you're either 1) ignorant 2) lack reading comprehension skills or 3) seek to defend this President and his Administrations at all costs, including your own credibility.

Employees don't have to be objective ITS THE IRS AGENCY that should be non-partisan, money/numbers don't have a political affiliation that is what we are ALL to the irs. Do you think it is at all possible for people to not have there own beliefs and ideals ??? In the military you have people who are liberal and conservative AND there are many who express there beliefs they are also government workers. Only in your bizarre world are your "rules" even possible.
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Old 06-02-2013, 11:02 AM
 
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No it was not irrelevant it's just something you don't care to listen to.

Employees don't have to be objective ITS THE IRS AGENCY that should be non-partisan, money/numbers don't have a political affiliation that is what we are ALL to the irs. Do you think it is at all possible for people to not have there own beliefs and ideals ??? In the military you have people who are liberal and conservative AND there are many who express there beliefs they are also government workers. Only in your bizarre world are your "rules" even possible.
What? You're kidding right? The IRS itself is only possible because of PEOPLE....it does not exist in some sort of bizarro world abstract where objectivity is some sort of motto poster on the wall and everything else is just rubbish.

The PEOPLE MUST BE OBJECTIVE. Their POLITICAL VIEWS CANNOT INTERFERE WITH THEIR WORK.

It is simply NOT POSSIBLE to maintain a political viewpoint....backed with donations of hard earned money....and then be 100% objective in analysis of political viewpoints that are contrary to the political viewpoints of the person doing the analysis. ESPECIALLY when the power of the IRS may be flung upon the opposing political ideology by those who don't agree with that ideology.

IT IS SIMPLY NOT POSSIBLE.

That you, or anyone else would suggest otherwise are not only disingenuous, you're downright ignorant of the basic fundamentals of political maneuvering in government.

It's downright amazing how far some of you will go to defend this Administration. It's disgusting.
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Old 06-02-2013, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Tim Carney: The IRS is deeply political

But of course those employees in Cincinnati, Washington DC, and beyond were merely rearranging their "workload."

Only a slimeball liberal of low-intelligence or a total idiot would believe the tripe coming out of Barack Obama's lying, unethical Administration.

Loads of rank and file donors within the ranks of the IRS and 118 visits to the White House by IRS leadership and Barack Obama never heard a peep about this?

What a ****ing crock.
Yep, reread it and I still don't know what you are talking a out. The article mentions people who work for the IRS and who they contribute money to, but it doesn't say anything about the IRS themselves donating to any campaigns.

Would you mind clarifying this for us on who it is you are upset with, the employees and where they donate their money or the IRS for allowing their employees to donate to campaigns? Or is there something completely different you are trying to say?
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Old 06-02-2013, 02:02 PM
 
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You think you are confused, your entire thread makes no sense. Are you saying people that work at the IRS can't spend their own money however they want?
Actually, what you seem to be confused about is whether or not the IRS should have carte blanche to go after groups based on their ideology.

Now that the horse is already out of the barn, we can see that the motive for this unbridled abuse of power is purely political.

How could that be made any easier for you to understand?
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Old 06-02-2013, 02:05 PM
 
Location: texas
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Tim Carney: The IRS is deeply political

But of course those employees in Cincinnati, Washington DC, and beyond were merely rearranging their "workload."

Only a slimeball liberal of low-intelligence or a total idiot would believe the tripe coming out of Barack Obama's lying, unethical Administration.

Loads of rank and file donors within the ranks of the IRS and 118 visits to the White House by IRS leadership and Barack Obama never heard a peep about this?

What a ****ing crock.
You do understand there is no restriction of any federal employee donating to any political party they choose. federal employee's don't lose their liberty, freedoms, or rights by being a federal employee.
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Old 06-02-2013, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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i'm barely considered a liberal. I know BS when I see BS. and you posted BS.

LOL, maybe compared to Karl Marx.
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Old 06-02-2013, 02:06 PM
 
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That is exactly why the agency is being investigated and criminal charges may apply to those guilty. Its independent structure as intended.
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Old 06-02-2013, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Actually, what you seem to be confused about is whether or not the IRS should have carte blanche to go after groups based on their ideology.

Now that the horse is already out of the barn, we can see that the motive for this unbridled abuse of power is purely political.

How could that be made any easier for you to understand?
So people who work for the IRS shouldn't be allowed to donate their money to whoever they want? Sounds a bit oppressive.
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Old 06-02-2013, 02:09 PM
 
Location: texas
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Actually, what you seem to be confused about is whether or not the IRS should have carte blanche to go after groups based on their ideology.

Now that the horse is already out of the barn, we can see that the motive for this unbridled abuse of power is purely political.

How could that be made any easier for you to understand?
You are extreamly confused by comming up with that contention...It isn't even the topic of discussion. Wow.

Horse already out of the barn...there ain't even a barn on this ranch...
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