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Old 06-03-2013, 07:10 AM
 
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oh c'mon, you know you edited it after my response.
You can see at the bottom of a post if it has been edited...and mine was not. If you can't have a rational discussion about this and would rather attempt to castigate me, then I suggest you pipe down child.

 
Old 06-03-2013, 07:15 AM
 
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Men are changing, particularly at the bottom 2/3 of society. Men aren't getting married, and if they do it is later in life.

The increasing trend is for men to opt-out, and women are becoming single mothers.



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We as Western societies have been struggling with young men for a long time now, higher suicide rates, failing school, failing University, getting into drugs and crime. To some extent feminism is to blame but unfortunately once you give a whole segment of society their freedom, you can never take it away.

So the answer is changing the mind set of boys so they can cope in this world. And for that to happen, I believe men need to be role models for youth. It's a challenge that's for sure.
Men have changed more than women.


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Old 06-03-2013, 07:21 AM
 
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Don't know too many men that have issues with their wife making lots of $$$. What MOST of us do have issues with is when this same woman feels the need to DEGRADE/DEMASCULATE HER MAN and shove the issue in his face.
 
Old 06-03-2013, 07:24 AM
 
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Don't know too many men that have issues with their wife making lots of $$$. What MOST of us do have issues with is when this same woman feels the need to DEGRADE/DEMASCULATE HER MAN and shove the issue in his face.

How would one do that? If it is not an issue, if one's masculinity is not tied to their income figure, then what can demasculate or degrade them about it?
 
Old 06-03-2013, 07:31 AM
 
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How would one do that? If it is not an issue, if one's masculinity is not tied to their income figure, then what can demasculate or degrade them about it?
Women demasculate/degrade their men by the things that come out of their mouth. Talking down to their man. Second guessing his judgments. WORDS ARE POWERFUL.
 
Old 06-03-2013, 07:33 AM
 
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Women demasculate/degrade their men by the things that come out of their mouth. Talking down to their man. Second guessing his judgments. WORDS ARE POWERFUL.

Can you give me an example that you have heard in real life? I cannot picture it.
 
Old 06-03-2013, 07:35 AM
 
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People have changed...period. Also, there are other consequences aside from single-parenthood. One is that never married men/divorced men who abandon their children leave themselves without a family support network as they age. What's Driving the Rise in Suicide Among Middle-Aged Men? - W. Bradford Wilcox - The Atlantic

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Nah, you get a window of several minutes to edit it without that.

Like this edit <----

And this one <----

And here's another <----




Well let's get back to your point at hand: "WAAAAH it's all men's fault! "



Men are changing, particularly at the bottom 2/3 of society. Men aren't getting married, and if they do it is later in life.

The increasing trend is for men to opt-out, and women are becoming single mothers.





Men have changed more than women.

 
Old 06-03-2013, 07:35 AM
 
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Don't know too many men that have issues with their wife making lots of $$$. What MOST of us do have issues with is when this same woman feels the need to DEGRADE/DEMASCULATE HER MAN and shove the issue in his face.
This sounds terrible...I cant imagine what it would have been like if men did that to women (for thousands of years). Thankfully that never happened.
 
Old 06-03-2013, 07:37 AM
 
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Men are choosing not to marry at record numbers never seen before so it doesn't really matter.
 
Old 06-03-2013, 07:38 AM
 
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Men are choosing not to marry at record numbers never seen before so it doesn't really matter.
Women are as well.
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