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Old 06-03-2013, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Bily Lovec View Post
BSA is a private organization.
they have rules.
you dont have to follow the rules and they dont have to keep you as a member.
if pillow biters want to join, thats fine.
but follow the rules.
dont like the BSA rules, why did you insist on being allowed in if you cant follow simple rules ?

you want to express a political belief, fine.
but everyone who wore their uniform in the parade should be kicked out.

follow the rules.
Oh, good.
Let's bring back those country clubs that don't allow jewish members.
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Old 06-03-2013, 09:58 AM
 
Location: California
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The boys were free to march in the parade. They just didn't want them wearing the scout uniforms.
It wasn't the scouts marching, it was the boys. The uniform represents the group, not the person and the scout leaders didn't want that representation there.

From the article..this is the point:
"We just don't want people to use the Boy Scouts to advocate their positions."
Exactly, it's no different than most company policies about attending political events, they don't want you wearing the company name because you are not allowed to represent the company at such events. No big deal.
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Exactly, it's no different than most company policies about attending political events, they don't want you wearing the company name because you are not allowed to represent the company at such events. No big deal.
Even with work. The company does not want you using their name in your personal doings because then it comes across that what you are doing represents the company.
You can get fired for doing that.
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:13 AM
 
Location: California
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Even with work. The company does not want you using their name in your personal doings because then it comes across that what you are doing represents the company.
You can get fired for doing that.
Yes, you sure can.
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Old 06-03-2013, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Gay or straight adult...it is no ones business when it comes to the formation of sexuality among youth. There is no such thing as a "gay kid" a kid is just a kid. Back in the day - when we were 12 years old we did not distinguish between gay or straight..even the potentially gay kids did not think of themselves as "gay" We don't need gay adults instructing kids on their so-called options.
Wrong, wrong, wrong. " back in the day " gay kids knew they were gay, just like straights know they're straight. To think otherwise is ignorant. Kids who were gay could not identify with a larger group, many thinking they are the only one, because that group as a political movement did not exist. When it started to exist it face outright discrimination that gay right groups have fought and won over the years. Also being represented in entertainment and media started to change. When I was a kid a gay person was presented as dirty, effeminate, and dangerous. A person to avoid. There were no gay role models etc. That has changed greatly.
In other words people who are young and gay, and with the invention of the internet, have a whole different world than those " back in the day ".
Oleg, you live in Canada. You do know that this Boys Scouts controversy is a U.S. thing. Gay scouts and gay scout leaders are welcomed in the Canadian Boy Scouts without issue, as do other Boy Scout outfits in other countries do as well.
This whole argument that the U.S. is having, is the same usual struggle that the U.S. has with societal progress..whether it gay marriage or blacks having the vote. They make a lot of noise and people scream and shout, but in the end they come around.

You earlier comment about removing " boy " suggesting gay men are pedophiles is disgusting, ignorant and offensive.
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Old 06-03-2013, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Some Beach... Somewhere...
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And why is change always viewed as "progress"? Part of the whole hopey-changey mentality? Values and standards apparently count for nothing for those of a certain mindset. As the pendelum swings further to the left, the only change left will be for it to swing back to the right, right?

Why are we all in this handbasket? And where are we going? It's getting awfully hot...
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Old 06-03-2013, 04:45 PM
 
Location: California
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So says someone who didn't EARN the right to wear it. Every single one of the badges and patches means something. I'd call it a paramilitary uniform to be more precise.
I earned GS patches thank, and it doesn't change the fact. Boy Scouts is a club, the uniform is not sacred. It's just meaningful to people who assign meaning to it. I'm not saying there is no meaning for some, there is, but it's still a fact that you can get and wear all sorts of organizations uniforms because people toss them out. And gays have been wearing the uniform as long as there has been a uniform. Don't worry about it.
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Old 06-03-2013, 06:52 PM
 
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These men are heroes.
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Old 06-03-2013, 06:56 PM
 
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Oh, good.
Let's bring back those country clubs that don't allow jewish members.
I'm sure some still exist. It's reverse, but there is a country club here in Denver that only allows Jewish members.
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Old 06-04-2013, 08:15 AM
 
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The boy scouts were pretty gay in the first place to be honest. I don't think this will change much.
Clarify.

I was a scout and your statement is BS.
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