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Anyone that think s they aren't also collecting call contents is mislead. I have heard all the excuses why it is practically impossible, it's not. Far from it. Cell phone communications are digital and already highly compressed as it traverses the computer network that runs the cellular networks. It is ALREADY in a compressed digital format. Writing that data to disk is a no-brainer and converting it to text for easy searching is becoming easy as well. Look at this article and the big players that have already developed such software. MS is one of them and they are working with the NSA.
Only a complete moron thinks these issues are Liberal vs Conservative, Democrat vs Republican issues!
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Originally Posted by Iamme73
Well thanks to conservatives and their fear mongering about the war on terror, we will have to force the government to give up these powers and the ONLY way to do that is to STOP the war on terror, get out of afghanistan, close GITMO, kill the Patriot Act, once you do those things, then it becomes clear we are not at war and the government can't claim these powers.
conservatives don't want to do any of that. conservatives want to continue the war on terror, they want to keep GITMO open, they don't even want to get out of Afghanistan, and they don't want to kill the Patriot Act. conservatives love the surveillance state.
Last edited by SpencerMtn; 06-07-2013 at 09:23 AM..
You're barking up the wrong tree. Since 9-11, right-wing extremists have plotted twice as many explosive-based attacks than "Muslims."
"Of the 380 individuals indicted for acts of political violence or for conspiring to carry out such attacks in the U.S. since 9/11, 77 were able to obtain explosives or the components necessary to build a bomb, according to a count by the New America Foundation.
Of those, 48 were right-wing extremists, 23 were militants inspired by al Qaeda's ideology, five have been described as anarchists and one was an environmentalist terrorist."
Now how many of them were due to FBI/CIA start to finish planning ?
Here's one such "plot" that got thwarted by the FBI:
Land Destroyer: Washington DC: FBI Foils Own Terror Plot (Again)
The only contact the suspect had with "Al Qaeda" was with FBI officials posing as associates of the elusive, omnipresent, bearded terror conglomerate. The FBI, much like their MI5 counterparts in England, have a propensity for recruiting likely candidates from mosques they covertly run.
This is but the latest in a string of national terror plots carried out from start to finish by the FBI, who has made a business of approaching likely candidates and grooming them to carry out terror attacks.
We need a Senate committee to reign in the National Security Agency like the Church Committee did back in the 1970’s. Probably call it the “Udall/Wyden Committee”.
By the way, the journalist who broke the story detailing these Orwellian government surveillance programs Glen Greenwald is saying he’s going to publish even more information exposing how the NSA has been targeting “innocent Americans inside the US”. Wow!
Hey, I don’t know if this is going to be enough to impeach Obama but it’s clear that DNI James Clapper needs to resign and maybe even be charged as a traitor to The US Constitution. The guy knowingly lied to Congress about the extent of these programs which means he thinks he’s above the law.
We need a Senate committee to reign in the National Security Agency like the Church Committee did back in the 1970’s. Probably call it the “Udall/Wyden Committee”.
By the way, the journalist who broke the story detailing these Orwellian government surveillance programs Glen Greenwald is saying he’s going to publish even more information exposing how the NSA has been targeting “innocent Americans inside the US”. Wow!
Hey, I don’t know if this is going to be enough to impeach Obama but it’s clear that DNI James Clapper needs to resign and maybe even be charged as a traitor to The US Constitution. The guy knowingly lied to Congress about the extent of these programs which means he thinks he’s above the law.
I hope Greenwald lives long enough to do that...
Whistle blowers are heroes, unfortunately often not recognized as such, or only in hindsight...
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