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Old 06-30-2013, 12:49 AM
 
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While some appear to be in a locked embrace with it.

Permanently domiciled with it, as it were.

Ratio Decidendi!
You know the terms, yet you fail to understand the simple ruling in US v Wong Kim Ark.

Funny...

And no, permanent residence is sufficient but not a necessary condition. Check out US v Wong Kim Ark.

But you do understand, as did the dissenting judges, that President Obama is a natural born

Good for you
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Old 06-30-2013, 12:52 AM
 
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you specifically stated that the document sent from the HI department of health to AZ SOS ken bennett was invalid.
Based on DC at the Ridge's admission:
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There are no legal documents that confirm the authenticity of another legal document. No such thing.
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Old 06-30-2013, 12:57 AM
 
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COLB: 2 representatives from factcheck.

LFBC: savannah guthrie and all other reporters at it's press conference release.
How very odd, since NONE of the above have the legal authority to confirm Constitutional eligibility, and are, in fact, merely propaganda agents.

You do realize that members of the press were only given uncertified copies, don't you?
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Old 06-30-2013, 01:05 AM
 
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Perhaps Obama meant raised by a single mother rather than born to a single mother. A minor difference and both quite accurate.
False.

Obama's mother divorced Obama Sr in 1964, remarried in 1965, and divorced again in 1980. Obama simply WAS NOT born to NOR raised by a single mother. It's just yet ANOTHER lie told by the man who lies to the American public as often as most people change their underwear.
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Old 06-30-2013, 01:07 AM
 
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You know the terms, yet you fail to understand the simple ruling in US v Wong Kim Ark.

Funny...

And no, permanent residence is sufficient but not a necessary condition. Check out US v Wong Kim Ark.

But you do understand, as did the dissenting judges, that President Obama is a natural born

Good for you
Term changing, or just more twisting?

"That during all the time of their said residence in the United States as domiciled residents therein, the said mother and father of said Wong Kim Ark were engaged in the prosecution of business, and were never engaged in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China." http://supreme.justia.com/cases/fede.../649/case.html

Twist and squirm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKh5k2cTk7c

Last edited by Nonarchist; 06-30-2013 at 01:21 AM..
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Old 06-30-2013, 01:07 AM
 
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Of course it does. They were married you know.
Exactly.

Obama was NOT born to a single mom, as he told the American public. It was just another lie told by a man who lies to the American public as often as most people change their underwear.
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Old 06-30-2013, 01:11 AM
 
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i find it hard to believe that IC was a mother if her definition of "active father" is simply attending a couple weeks worth of social functions.
Everyone knows what a "single mom" means. It means no husband.

That simply was NOT the case when Obama was born, as he tried to scam the American public into believing.
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Old 06-30-2013, 01:17 AM
 
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permanent residence is sufficient but not a necessary condition. Check out US v Wong Kim Ark.
False.

The question asked and answered, as explicitly written by Gray himself in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark:

"The evident intention, and ***the necessary effect***, of the submission of this case to the *decision of the court upon the facts agreed by the parties* were to *present for determination ***the single question*** stated at the beginning of this opinion,...

*namely*, whether a child born in the United States, of parent of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but *have a permanent domicil and residence in the United States*, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China, becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States. For the reasons above stated, this court is of opinion that the question must be answered in the affirmative"

The question asked and answered, clearly communicated by Gray's explicit use of "the single question" and "namely" followed by the exact conditions considered by the Court in this case in the closing paragraph of the ruling.

Look at any other SCOTUS ruling. Most don't specifically restate the EXACT question before the Court in their closing paragraphs as Gray did, allowing for wiggle room in interpretation in many cases. However, Gray specifically DID NOT allow for such in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark.
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Old 06-30-2013, 08:10 AM
 
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Based on DC at the Ridge's admission:
DC's admission has exactly nothing to do with whether or not the verification is valid. The verification authenticates the information, not the document. It even says so.
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Old 06-30-2013, 08:12 AM
 
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Based on DC at the Ridge's admission:
we've been over that.

your are still avoiding support for your statement.
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