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Old 07-01-2013, 03:39 PM
 
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This has nothing to do with birth or accuracy.
Both of those Obama lies ARE about the circumstances of his birth.

How do you not get that?
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Old 07-01-2013, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Hence the specific statement in the 1964 legal filing, "said parties are now living apart."
Where exactly does it say that they lived together when Obama was born?

You've been asked that question several times now. Why do you keep refusing to answer a simple question?
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Old 07-01-2013, 03:40 PM
 
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No, they did not. Their exact words:

"In any event, the fact that someone is a natural born citizen pursuant to a statute does not necessarily imply that he or she is such a citizen for Constitutional purposes."
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86757.pdf
Yes, their exact words.

If someone is a natural born citizen pursuant to statute, (a natural-born citizen by law, right?), it does not necessarily imply (the law doesn't necessarily mean) that he or she is a natural-born citizen for Constitutional purposes (the ONLY purpose being eligible to be President). So they are saying that if they find someone to be a natural-born citizen (they don't have the power to speak for other government offices), so if they, the State Department, find someone to be a natural-born citizen by statute, the law they are using doesn't necessarily mean that that someone is eligible to be President. What does that mean? That the State Department isn't the authority to determine if someone is eligible to be President. That State Department determinations of citizenship aren't relevant to determining who is and who isn't eligible to be President.
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Old 07-01-2013, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Read the document.
I did. I can't find it.

Please... point it out to us all. Or admit that the only confirmed liar in this thread is you.
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Old 07-01-2013, 03:41 PM
 
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Hence the specific statement in the 1964 legal filing, "said parties are now living apart."

Do you have any idea how desperate your posts make you look?
The irony of it.
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Old 07-01-2013, 03:42 PM
 
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Where exactly does it say that they lived together when Obama was born?
Libel for Divorce, items I and III, state who lived where, under what status, and when.

Those are Obama's mother's allegations, of course. Do you wish to claim she was lying?
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Old 07-01-2013, 03:45 PM
 
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Yes, their exact words.

If someone is a natural born citizen pursuant to statute, (a natural-born citizen by law, right?), it does not necessarily imply (the law doesn't necessarily mean) that he or she is a natural-born citizen for Constitutional purposes (the ONLY purpose being eligible to be President). So they are saying that if they find someone to be a natural-born citizen...
There is no indication whatsoever exactly who would be making the determination. You're imagining things.
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Old 07-01-2013, 03:46 PM
 
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Libel for Divorce, items I and III, state who lived where, under what status, and when.

Those are Obama's mother's allegations, of course. Do you wish to claim she was lying?
Does NOT state that Obama's parents were living together at the time of Obama's birth. Try again!
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Old 07-01-2013, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Libel for Divorce, items I and III, state who lived where, under what status, and when.
Too bad neither of them say when they lived together, or that they lived together when Obama was born.

You want to try again? Or just admit that you were lying?

Your choice.

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Those are Obama's mother's allegations, of course. Do you wish to claim she was lying?
She appears to be telling the truth. Too bad she never confirms your lie in the process.
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Old 07-01-2013, 03:49 PM
 
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There is no indication whatsoever exactly who would be making the determination. You're imagining things.
The State Department speaks for the Department of Defense? the Department of Education? Congress?

The State Department is only speaking for itself when talking about who would be making the determinations. And as I pointed out earlier, your problem is that they are explicitly saying that any decisions made on citizenship by the State Department do "not necessarily" mean that the decision applies for Constitutional purposes--the only Constitutional purpose being Presidential eligibility. A point that you've not argued, since there is no argument against it.
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