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Old 06-08-2013, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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The Founding Fathers were Freemasons. Are you saying the US was built on Satanism and devil worship?
I think that I've read that George Washington himself was a member.
He was, along with Benjamin Franklin, William Ellery, John Hancock, Joseph Hewes, William Hooper, Robert Paine, Richard Stockton, George Walton and William Whipple, and contrary to what is being claimed by certsevtxert, Freemasons do not worship Lucifer.

 
Old 06-08-2013, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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This is absolutely the biggest bunch of BS that I have read so far.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
In all honesty and fairness, part of his post is correct. Jesus is not mentioned in Freemasonry prayers. At its core, Freemasonry is agnostic. It is required that one believe in a "deity" but which deity is not specified. The "One True Architect" that is revered by Freemasons is the deity, which makes sense considering that the center of Freemasonry is orderly thought. Is it really logical to believe that Freemasons would worship the cast-out angel who is the focus of chaos?

For the rest of it, most of the post you quoted is hogwash, based on information that was revealed to be a hoax over 100 years ago.
 
Old 06-08-2013, 07:18 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Absolutely not.

But how do you know unless you are a 33rd degree mason?
 
Old 06-08-2013, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Temporarily residing on Planet Earth
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But how do you know unless you are a 33rd degree mason?
33rd degree is not a level. It is the highest level technically, but it is an honorary title, not a rank. See the freemason website: 33rd Degree Mason | 33rd degree freemasons | Freemasons | Freemasonry | 3rd Degree Mason | 33rd degree masons | Masonic Lodge
 
Old 06-08-2013, 07:24 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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But how do you know unless you are a 33rd degree mason?


I am a 33rd degree Mason.
 
Old 06-08-2013, 08:08 PM
 
Location: earth?
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It's not just an ordinary social group. There are severe penalties for breaking any of their rules.
 
Old 06-08-2013, 08:13 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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It's not just an ordinary social group. There are severe penalties for breaking any of their rules.


Many have broken the rules and not suffered any penalties. People have given out the so called secrets and never suffered any penalties. People will believe anything
 
Old 06-08-2013, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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I cannot fathom why Freemasons get such a bad rap. They have their secret ceremonies, just as you see with any fraternity. Their organization is religious and thus their ceremonies are religious as well. Their ceremonies are modifiable to embrace Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism and any other major world religion -- so they're not exactly a religion per se. They do a lot of good things all over the world.
 
Old 06-08-2013, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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IT's just a group much like any other. The conspiracies theories surrounding them are rather funny.
 
Old 06-08-2013, 08:31 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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IT's just a group much like any other. The conspiracies theories surrounding them are rather funny.



Exactly. And very ignorant to facts.
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