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Old 06-12-2013, 07:31 AM
 
Location: On the Group W bench
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Ah, I think I see what you're saying. You're saying the 2nd restricted the Fed Gov from infringing on second amendment rights, but not the states..... gotcha....




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Australia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Mexico
I'm sorry. The fact that some countries have gun control legislation proves what, exactly? Didn't you state categorically that gun control leads to gun bans? I don't see any bans there, just tight restrictions. So your argument fails.

And in the UK and Australia, those restrictions were made with popular support after horrific gun massacres ... unlike the US, where we just yawn, note that it's another day in gun-fetish-land, and lobby for more guns.
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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Exclamation John Zawahri's Deep Interest in Assault Weapons.

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Red flags before Santa Monica shooting, but pointing fingers is hard

John Zawahri, the alleged shooter in Santa Monica, Calif., was said to be deeply interested in assault weapons and apparently had a difficult home life. But it can be complicated to take steps when signs like these surface.

By Gloria Goodale, Staff writer / June 11, 2013

Emerging details about the troubled past of the alleged shooter in Santa Monica, Calif., are reopening discussions about the identification of red flags – and the issues involved in responding to them.

John Zawahri is accused of fatally shooting five people last Friday and was killed by police. In high school, he was deeply interested in assault weapons, which in 2006 led school officials to report him to police, says Sandra Lyon, superintendent of the Santa Monica-
Red flags before Santa Monica shooting, but pointing fingers is hard

Deeply interest in assault weapons. Sounds like 99% of the gunnut posters on C-D forums. Makes you wonder of the next mass shooter is among us.
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Gun nut parent. The same as the Newtown CN killer. Gun nuts and kids are not a good combination.
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I'm sorry. The fact that some countries have gun control legislation proves what, exactly? Didn't you state categorically that gun control leads to gun bans? I don't see any bans there, just tight restrictions. So your argument fails

And in the UK and Australia, those restrictions were made with popular support after horrific gun massacres ... unlike the US, where we just yawn, note that it's another day in gun-fetish-land, and lobby for more guns.
Where in any of these countries are you permitted to own an AR15?

Gun Ban

Go try to buy a handgun in the Great Britain....

Gun Ban

and on it goes....
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:01 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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With everything else going on this story was completely dropped by the media and both gun banners and 2nd amendment supporters seem to be focused elsewhere.
It's not dropped here. Two more people were shot in Santa Monica on Tuesday, unrelated to the other shootings. And it was found that the gunman responsible for the five deaths earlier fired over 100 rounds.
Santa Monica gunman fired 100 rounds during rampage, officials say - latimes.com
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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It's not dropped here. Two more people were shot in Santa Monica on Tuesday, unrelated to the other shootings. And it was found that the gunman responsible for the five deaths earlier fired over 100 rounds.
Santa Monica gunman fired 100 rounds during rampage, officials say - latimes.com
100 rounds and only six deaths? Thank god for poor shots I guess.....


Why is a big deal always made over the amount of rounds fired by the shooter? Why is it always a big deal how many rounds they have stock piled at their house?

Of what significance is it?
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:23 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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100 rounds and only six deaths? Thank god for poor shots I guess.....


Why is a big deal always made over the amount of rounds fired by the shooter? Why is it always a big deal how many rounds they have stock piled at their house?

Of what significance is it?
One other question, why is it they never make a big deal about how many rounds the P.D. shoots off, usually only hitting the suspect once or twice if at all?
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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With everything else going on this story was completely dropped by the media and both gun banners and 2nd amendment supporters seem to be focused elsewhere.
I guess its only news if they tell us it is.
Mass shootings are no longer news in the United Gun States of America. They are just a common everyday occurrence, and thats the way the NRA wants it. They want people to become used to gun violence. They want people to be numb to it. That way people will just accept the gun violence as a fact of life and the gunnuts can continue on with their gun culture, unmolested.
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:13 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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Why is a big deal always made over the amount of rounds fired by the shooter? Why is it always a big deal how many rounds they have stock piled at their house?
Of what significance is it?
Maybe that the shooter had been planning to take out more people? That stockpiling all of that ammunition meant that the killings might have been premeditated? That maybe there was something we could have done to prevent another mass shooting from happening?
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:15 PM
 
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Maybe that the shooter had been planning to take out more people? That stockpiling all of that ammunition meant that the killings might have been premeditated? That maybe there was something we could have done to prevent another mass shooting from happening?
There is. We can start the discussion about how we deal with people with mental health issues.
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