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When exactly did Americans have affordable access to healthcare? Healthcare costs were destroying the financial Prospects of working class families across America because they couldn't afford insurance. Especially if they have preexisting conditions such as myself.
And Obamcare had already done amazing things for America. One small example would be my brother, who severe asthma, was able to stay on our mothers medical insurance even though he turned 24 last year. Another example being that preexisting clauses, which I had to fight extensively this year, will next year be illegal.
More great things from Obamcare are yet to come. Next year we will truly see the greatness of this legislation.
The debate over Obamacare has been hashed out in thread after thread on these forums, and I don't have any desire to hijack this thread with another. However, I'll state the following and then let it rest. Feel free to start another thread if you want to debate the pros and cons of Obamacare, I'll jump right in.
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When exactly did Americans have affordable access to healthcare?
Before the government got involved in healthcare, for the most part. However, the working poor had access to Medicaid, which while it wasn't great medical coverage did cover the basics.
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Healthcare costs were destroying the financial Prospects of working class families across America because they couldn't afford insurance.
News flash, Obamacare isn't going to change the fact that healthcare costs are astronomical. Nor is it going to make insurance premiums more affordable for any but the lowest wage earners. Middle class is going to see their rates go up, especially those that are young and healthy. Before Obamacare, those young and healthy workers could afford to gamble a bit - usually without any major consequences - by not purchasing insurance. Now, however, they will be forced to purchase health insurance at a higher premium than what they should reasonably expect to pay in order to subsidize those that are less healthy than they are.
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One small example would be my brother, who severe asthma, was able to stay on our mothers medical insurance even though he turned 24 last year.
While I'm happy that your brother is able to be covered under your mother's insurance, I don't think that Obamacare addressed this in the best possible way. Once again, for every person who is able to be covered cheaply under a health insurance plan, someone who should rightly have cheap insurance is paying a much higher premium than they rightfully should in order to subsidize the cost.
The pre-existing condition segment of Obamacare is just about the only part that I agree with, quite frankly. Even at that, I don't think we needed a 900 page law to ensure that people with pre-existing conditions could purchase health insurance.
Did healthcare need to be reformed? Undoubtedly. On the other hand, raping and pillaging the middle class in order to reform healthcare and make it more affordable for the the lower class is a shining example of how reform should not have been carried out.
Again, that's all I'm going to say on the pros and cons of Obamacare in this thread, because I don't want to sidetrack too far from the original topic. If you wish to continue the conversation, I'll be happy to jump into whatever thread you create to discuss the matter in more depth.
The debate over Obamacare has been hashed out in thread after thread on these forums, and I don't have any desire to hijack this thread with another. However, I'll state the following and then let it rest. Feel free to start another thread if you want to debate the pros and cons of Obamacare, I'll jump right in.
Before the government got involved in healthcare, for the most part. However, the working poor had access to Medicaid, which while it wasn't great medical coverage did cover the basics.
News flash, Obamacare isn't going to change the fact that healthcare costs are astronomical. Nor is it going to make insurance premiums more affordable for any but the lowest wage earners. Middle class is going to see their rates go up, especially those that are young and healthy. Before Obamacare, those young and healthy workers could afford to gamble a bit - usually without any major consequences - by not purchasing insurance. Now, however, they will be forced to purchase health insurance at a higher premium than what they should reasonably expect to pay in order to subsidize those that are less healthy than they are.
While I'm happy that your brother is able to be covered under your mother's insurance, I don't think that Obamacare addressed this in the best possible way. Once again, for every person who is able to be covered cheaply under a health insurance plan, someone who should rightly have cheap insurance is paying a much higher premium than they rightfully should in order to subsidize the cost.
The pre-existing condition segment of Obamacare is just about the only part that I agree with, quite frankly. Even at that, I don't think we needed a 900 page law to ensure that people with pre-existing conditions could purchase health insurance.
Did healthcare need to be reformed? Undoubtedly. On the other hand, raping and pillaging the middle class in order to reform healthcare and make it more affordable for the the lower class is a shining example of how reform should not have been carried out.
Again, that's all I'm going to say on the pros and cons of Obamacare in this thread, because I don't want to sidetrack too far from the original topic. If you wish to continue the conversation, I'll be happy to jump into whatever thread you create to discuss the matter in more depth.
And Republicans would have kept the status quo with Americas healthcare system until people revolted. At least Obama and the democrats got rid of our old healthcare system. What we have coming is far better than what we have had for decades.
And Republicans would have kept the status quo with Americas healthcare system until people revolted. At least Obama and the democrats got rid of our old healthcare system. What we have coming is far better than what we have had for decades.
Until we are a few years in, I would not say if it is a success or failure. People on both sides say it will help or hurt America. I honestly don't know what to believe anymore until it is fully enacted. Once it is I will give my thoughts and label Obamacare with an incomplete grade. Until then, I think it isn't appropriate to say it is better or not.
Maybe the job growth wouldn't be so "slow" if the treasonous-teabagger-do-nothing-fascist-right-wing-Congress got off their john brown hind parts and passed its first jobs bill before trying (unsucessfully) for the 38th time to repeal Obamacare ....
Maybe the job growth wouldn't be so "slow" if the treasonous-teabagger-do-nothing-fascist-right-wing-Congress got off their john brown hind parts and passed its first jobs bill before trying (unsucessfully) for the 38th time to repeal Obamacare ....
The left squashed job bills as well. Anyone remember Obama's Job Bill? Yeah many Democrats, (let me repeat DEMOCRATS) said the bill was second stimulus and offered too many tax breaks.
As for recent ones, Republicans AND Democrats are both against each other yet again. Democratic Jobs Bill Goes Down - NationalJournal.com What America needs is compromise. As much as people claim Republicans don't, let's be fair to the left as well.
Maybe the job growth wouldn't be so "slow" if the treasonous-teabagger-do-nothing-fascist-right-wing-Congress got off their john brown hind parts and passed its first jobs bill before trying (unsucessfully) for the 38th time to repeal Obamacare ....
Or maybe if liberal poiliticans like Obama weren't trying to cater to illegals and dump over 11 million of them into the labor pools who will soon be allowed to take any job they like while Americans remain unemployed. Oh -- well it's all about cheap labor that the liberal elites crave.
Or maybe if liberal poiliticans like Obama weren't trying to cater to illegals and dump over 11 million of them into the labor pools who will soon be allowed to take any job they like while Americans remain unemployed. Oh -- well it's all about cheap labor that the liberal elites crave.
Or maybe if liberal poiliticans like Obama weren't trying to cater to illegals and dump over 11 million of them into the labor pools who will soon be allowed to take any job they like while Americans remain unemployed. Oh -- well it's all about cheap labor that the liberal elites crave.
Wait until the union boys are forced to watch all their new found friends start taking jobs that are not Davis Bacon jobs..lmao sold out by the very people they pay to represent them lmao!
Fed study: Tax hikes, not spending cuts, are slowing the recovery
The San Francisco Fed does note that after the recovery began "fiscal policy sharply reversed course"." Looking ahead, the Fed does see fiscal policy slowing growth, but not, as liberals would have you believe, due to spending cuts.
Surprisingly, despite all the attention federal spending cuts and sequestration have received, our calculations suggest they are not the main contributors to this projected drag. The excess fiscal drag on the horizon comes almost entirely from rising taxes. Specifically, we calculate that nine-tenths of that projected 1 percentage point excess fiscal drag comes from tax revenue rising faster than normal as a share of the economy.
So the next time a liberal complains about austerity, be sure to ask them which of Obama's many tax hikes they want to repeal first.
Can't wait for Obamacare taxes to fully kick in. Then we can really expect a slowdown.
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