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Old 06-10-2013, 10:14 AM
 
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What bill did Bush sign, to expand it to cell phones?
What bill did Obama sign to expand it to cell phones?

You have no problem blaming Obama, yet are up in arms when they blame Bush

 
Old 06-10-2013, 10:15 AM
 
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Tell that to the people who call it the Obamaphones and blame Obama
You're the one blaming Bush, so once again, what bill did Bush sign?

What bill did Reagan sign for that matter?
 
Old 06-10-2013, 10:15 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Were they landlines this wouldn't be an issue. Cell phones should only be issued to homeless people. If you have section 8 housing, landline only. It's the advertising of entitlement programs under this president that is just nuts, why drum up business to give away money? I believe we already gave away more than enough as it is.
 
Old 06-10-2013, 10:16 AM
 
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What bill did Obama sign to expand it to cell phones?

You have no problem blaming Obama, yet are up in arms when they blame Bush
You'd need to ask the recipiants of the Obamaphone who thanked Obama for that.

Where have I blamed Obama?
 
Old 06-10-2013, 10:16 AM
 
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You're the one blaming Bush, so once again, what bill did Bush sign?

What bill did Reagan sign for that matter?
Blame for what? I'm not whining about govt phones, you guys are.

I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy.

Government phones during Reagan and Bush are good

Government phones during Obama are bad.
 
Old 06-10-2013, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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So why did was it expanded to cell phones during the Bush years, were is your criticism of Bush??????
Criticism over what ? The move to cellphones ?
Why criticize that ?

Wouldn't anyone ASSUME that the government would have planned this out ?
It wasn't until the cost of the program exploded that people both in and out of government started asking questions.
Then it was uncovered that there was no oversight and no accountability.
The FCC had no way to see if a person applying for a lifeline phone at AT&T also had one with Verizon.
There was no database against which the telecom companies could check. It was all being done on individual's word that they had no other lifeline phone.

And previous to that there was no need for a central database to check.
You could only have one physical lifeline phone connection per address.

The fault lies with the FCC for not designing oversight with the move to cellphones.

I'm not going to get into the game of blaming one President or another.
This was the FCC at fault.
 
Old 06-10-2013, 10:17 AM
 
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Were they landlines this wouldn't be an issue. Cell phones should only be issued to homeless people. If you have section 8 housing, landline only.
You should have cried about that when they switched to cell phones during the Bush years. Didn't see you calling it Bushphones
 
Old 06-10-2013, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You'd need to ask the recipiants of the Obamaphone who thanked Obama for that.

Where have I blamed Obama?
The OP is intent on blaming Reagan and Bush.
No amount of logic or data will convince him otherwise.

Not even the FCC admitting they messed up when they moved to cellphones in 2009.
 
Old 06-10-2013, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You should have cried about that when they switched to cell phones during the Bush years. Didn't see you calling it Bushphones
I've already pointed out to you that some one/group created "obamaphone" and advertised it heavily.
Blame them for the label.
 
Old 06-10-2013, 10:20 AM
 
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Blame for what? I'm not whining about govt phones, you guys are.

I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy.

Government phones during Reagan and Bush are good

Government phones during Obama are bad.
I dont think ANYONE should get free phones, thats not at all hypocritical
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