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Old 06-12-2013, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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And you hit on the basic point. Alcoholics can't stop being alcoholics so they stay away from it and make sure they aren't tempted by it. Same goes for any behavior. You can indulge in it or stay away from it. Even straight sex if you take a vow of celibacy like being a priest or a nun or any of the other religious sects that take a vow of celibacy. It isn't easy and they know it but they know they need to control their behavior.
So basically you are saying that someone can be born gay. Thank you for answering my question.

 
Old 06-12-2013, 11:42 PM
 
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What sexually confused people, the straight people who think that gays only have anal sex and that straight people do not? Marriage is not and has not been only for straight people. For thousands of years there has been same sex marriage, so nothing is changing, just the bigotted laws that prevent gays from entering into a civil marriage contract. The only ones confused are some christians that just do not want to accept that gays want to marry and have legal protections that straight married couples get, nothing confusing there.
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:44 PM
 
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So basically you are saying that someone can be born gay. Thank you for answering my question.
No one is born anything not alcoholics or any other thing. We all come into the world heterosexual and free from any addictions.
 
Old 06-12-2013, 11:47 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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No one is born anything not alcoholics or any other thing. We all come into the world heterosexual and free from any addictions.
I don't know about you, I wasn't having any sexual desires when I was a baby. We develop our sexuality at an older stage in our life, then we grow into being heterosexual, homosexual, or a number of other potential things.

Also, did you choose to be an alcoholic or did you learn you were an alcoholic after the fact? Not many people wake up and choose to be an alcoholic, much like no one wakes up and chooses to be gay or straight.
 
Old 06-12-2013, 11:47 PM
 
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So basically you are saying that someone can be born gay. Thank you for answering my question.
No more than one is born an adulterer, pedophile or serial killer. We are born with free will to choose good or evil in our lives.
 
Old 06-12-2013, 11:51 PM
 
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Stargazzer---can't rep you but what you posted is brillant.
 
Old 06-12-2013, 11:54 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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No more than one is born an adulterer, pedophile or serial killer. We are born with free will to choose good or evil in our lives.
I don't know about you, but I don't group who I have sex with with the group you just listed. That would be like saying heterosexuals are like adulterers, pedophiles, and serial killers.

Also, who sees sex and love as a good and evil kind of thing? That is a sad way to live one's life. I look at my fiancee with love, not that I choose the forces of good. And I don't look at my gay and lesbian friends as if they choose the choice of evil just because they are in love with someone of the same sex. That is just pure idiotic thinking.
 
Old 06-12-2013, 11:57 PM
 
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I don't know about you, I wasn't having any sexual desires when I was a baby. We develop our sexuality at an older stage in our life, then we grow into being heterosexual, homosexual, or a number of other potential things.

Also, did you choose to be an alcoholic or did you learn you were an alcoholic after the fact? Not many people wake up and choose to be an alcoholic, much like no one wakes up and chooses to be gay or straight.
No one really knows what makes someone gay. This is why parents would like to keep theri kids away from the idea of "if it feels good it is good" kind of thinking we have going on today. It use to be taught that most kids go through a stage but they grow out of it. Now kids aren't given the chance to grow out of anything. They are labeled early and it's not fair.
 
Old 06-12-2013, 11:59 PM
 
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Let's hope her new guy doesn't turn out to be gay.
 
Old 06-12-2013, 11:59 PM
 
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Stargazzer---can't rep you but what you posted is brillant.
Thanks...sorry for taking so long, some of these entries can get rude and need to be read from a distance.
( I misplaced my binoculars).
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