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Old 06-13-2013, 08:22 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Yes, Obama clearly has more responsibilities than Romney does.
To bad that he doesn't take them as respondsibilities but merely attempts to throw more government at them and attempts to control every individual action as his means of governing.

And of course lying about what he is doing under the guise of ?National Security".

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Old 06-13-2013, 08:44 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Default A GOP President would be far worse

We learned in the last election that polls must be taken with a grain of salt when 1) The clueless Right is interpreting the results, generating the poll, or providing the narrative; and 2) they slam this great President.

We have an extraordinary man in the White House presently. President Barack Obama. He is kicking the living hell out of you Republicans. You fear the success that he can bring if he has his way. Plus you have proven yourselves worthless, so all you can do is cling to polls which told you that Romney would be the next president. If this great president's numbers are low, this means that 1) the poll is flawed and 2) a GOP president would rate far, far lower.

Reality....recognize it. This President is not only POPULAR...but effectively running this country.
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Old 06-13-2013, 08:53 AM
 
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We learned in the last election that polls must be taken with a grain of salt when 1) The clueless Right is interpreting the results, generating the poll, or providing the narrative; and 2) they slam this great President.

We have an extraordinary man in the White House presently. President Barack Obama. He is kicking the living hell out of you Republicans. You fear the success that he can bring if he has his way. Plus you have proven yourselves worthless, so all you can do is cling to polls which told you that Romney would be the next president. If this great president's numbers are low, this means that 1) the poll is flawed and 2) a GOP president would rate far, far lower.

Reality....recognize it. This President is not only POPULAR...but effectively running this country.
#1 The RCP Average was very accurate in both 2008 and 2012. The simple RCP average of states beat the demi-god Nate Silver in 2008 and was only 1 state away from perfection in 2012.

The RCP average shows that Obama's job approval is struggling with non-blacks, middle class, and independents.

Sorry, but that is the case. You can hide from the facts if you like.


#2 Stop comparing to Obama to Bush or Romney. Obama is president. His poll numbers are tanking because of the ineptitude of his own administration.


#3 How is this man so amazing? What has Obama done besides do an average job, lie, break promises, etc?
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Old 06-13-2013, 08:57 AM
 
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Then, by your own statement, you just lied. If the democratic party does not represent those in the Republican party, they do not represent "all Americans". Unless you consider those who oppose your little cabal to not be "Americans".
The Democratic Party has white, Christian members.

Also, I have no idea what you are trying to say with most of that last post. It's very odd.
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Old 06-13-2013, 09:04 AM
 
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The Democratic Party has white, Christian members.

Also, I have no idea what you are trying to say with most of that last post. It's very odd.
And yet you defame the Republican party for being the party of the whites.

What's the matter, you can't have it both ways?

I am sure that you have "no idea" what the rest of the post means.

What is the old saying: none is so blind as he who will not see.

Kind of a definition for your type of bias.
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Old 06-13-2013, 09:20 AM
 
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And yet you defame the Republican party for being the party of the whites.

What's the matter, you can't have it both ways?

I am sure that you have "no idea" what the rest of the post means.

What is the old saying: none is so blind as he who will not see.

Kind of a definition for your type of bias.
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit. I said the Democratic Party is more representative of the American public. We have whites, blacks, hispanics, asians, religious, and non-religious members. The Republican Party is mostly white, Christian people. That's the difference.

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Old 06-13-2013, 09:35 AM
 
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What a great strategy!!! "Let's not try to represent all Americans and become a better party, let's just wait for white people to die out so we get a larger share that way."

I cannot say I'm surprised though.
You do realize that more than half of Obama voters were white, correct?

I guess we're becoming a nation where the color of your skin determines what you believe. And that's sad.
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Old 06-13-2013, 09:42 AM
 
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Turn around is fair play. If it is fair to point out that polls showed Romney doing poorly with blacks to diminish him...then it is fair to show polls showing Obama doing poorly with non-blacks to diminish him.


Why does Obama have just a 39% approval rating (well below George W Bush at the moment) among all non-blacks?

Why does this contrast so sharply with blacks that have Obama's disapproval ratings in the single digits?

Why does Obama have just a 37% approval rating (well below George W Bush at the moment) among Independents?

Why does Obama's approval numbers perform the worst among the middle class and have higher approval ratings with the poor and then the rich?


http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net...kingreport.pdf

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Obama Job Approval

Unfortunately, the only approval rating that matters was conducted in Nov 2012. I wonder where all these people were then?
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Old 06-13-2013, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I read your link and didn't see an approval rating of 37%. The range was 44% (FOX) to 49% (Bloomberg.)
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Old 06-13-2013, 11:21 AM
 
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I read your link and didn't see an approval rating of 37%. The range was 44% (FOX) to 49% (Bloomberg.)
Look at the internals of the polls.

For example, the link in the original post....Obama's approval rating with independents south of 40%. Obama's approval ratings with non-blacks south of 40%. Etc...
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