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Old 06-12-2013, 11:26 AM
 
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The board is made up by a wide variety of people including lawyers and those in the insurance industry. Now we are going to allow the patients actual doctor have a say along side those with financial interests.



Which means they are changing them. Things can't stand as they are but now be different.
No, they are not changing the policy. Patients could appeal before, and patients can appeal now. The difference is that the appeals process has been made clearer and more streamlines. Since you could always appeal, policy is unchanged.
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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The board is made up by a wide variety of people including lawyers and those in the insurance industry. Now we are going to allow the patients actual doctor have a say along side those with financial interests.



Which means they are changing them. Things can't stand as they are but now be different.
The current guidelines are staying the same. 12 and over for adult lungs. They simple are allowing for appeals on a case by case basis also. But the general rule stays the same.

Which board? The operations board? The medical board?
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:27 AM
 
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No, they are not changing the policy. Patients could appeal before, and patients can appeal now. The difference is that the appeals process has been made clearer and more streamlines. Since you could always appeal, policy is unchanged.
LOL, O.K. so the appeal process didn't work before and now they are going to allow it to actually work with the input of a persons doctor.

I'll go with that.
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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The doctors have not been allowed to make these decisions. The regulations state that someone her age can not get a transplant from an adult even if she is at the top of the list unless there are no adults that can take them.

So if the doctors decide that she is the most likely to die and needs the transplant first she could not get the lungs.
Doctors created the transplant priority list to begin with.

OPTN: Organ Procurement and Transplantation Network

The doctors used unbiased scientific and medical knowledge to create a list which would best use donated organs for optimal outcomes. If was the government (federal judge) who interfered and injected bias into this system.
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:34 AM
 
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LOL, O.K. so the appeal process didn't work before and now they are going to allow it to actually work with the input of a persons doctor.

I'll go with that.
A person's doctor always had input on the appeals process.

Let's all hope that Sarah makes it through the surgery today. That should be the priority.
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:37 AM
 
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I have to wonder...which patient that was on the transplant list, created via the input from the best medical professionals in the field, will not get these lungs, and who in turn now may die? All at the whim of a judge. Good for this particular girl...perhaps a disaster for sick patients without the dollars and connections to distort the system in their favor.


big mainstream media helped a lot.. wonder who the poor soul that is going to die is?? we won't here a peep about him or her.. hope all goes good for the girl though..
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:42 AM
 
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The doctors set the rules of donation, and transplant recipients. They did so because an adult lung has to be cut down to fit in a childs chest cavity, reducing the success rate.
This judge decided that she/he knew better than the transplant specialists that made the rules.

^^^^ It will be interesting to see how it goes for this little girl. Sad case but will be sadder if she dies in spite of the transplant as well as someone who would otherwise have lived if they got it.
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:46 AM
 
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Doctors created the transplant priority list to begin with.

OPTN: Organ Procurement and Transplantation Network

The doctors used unbiased scientific and medical knowledge to create a list which would best use donated organs for optimal outcomes. If was the government (federal judge) who interfered and injected bias into this system.
And the network agreed with them in the end. They were already working on amending the rules.
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:46 AM
 
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One federal judge thinks he knows more about the success of a transplant than 46 doctors, medical specialists, and scientists. OPTN: Organ Procurement and Transplantation Network
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:47 AM
 
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^^^^ It will be interesting to see how it goes for this little girl. Sad case but will be sadder if she dies in spite of the transplant as well as someone who would otherwise have lived if they got it.
One can't know for certain how well any transplant recipient will do.
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