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Old 06-13-2013, 09:06 AM
 
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Did you show the same economic concerns, and ask who was going to pay for the free birth control, abortion pills, and free sterilization procedures the Obama admin mandated?
Abortion pills & free sterilization? I'm unaware of this.
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Old 06-13-2013, 09:17 AM
 
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Polls show low support for Obamacare but high support for universal healthcare.

Obamacare is a poorly written,seriously compromised bill written by a congress that was bought off by the for-profit healthcare system. Please don't confuse Obamacare with universal healthcare.

And Wisconsin is a Koch Brothers joke.
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Old 06-13-2013, 09:19 AM
 
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A simple ultrasound, before permanently snuffing out a human life, seems like a reasonable request.
Two wrongs do not make a right. Forcing medical procedures on people is a terrible road to start down.
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Old 06-13-2013, 09:21 AM
 
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All they have to do is get ahold of Washington for a list of phone numbers called, and screen the ones that called abortion clinics. Nothing like teamwork in politics
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Old 06-13-2013, 09:22 AM
 
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Polls show low support for Obamacare but high support for universal healthcare.

Obamacare is a poorly written,seriously compromised bill written by a congress that was bought off by the for-profit healthcare system. Please don't confuse Obamacare with universal healthcare.

And Wisconsin is a Koch Brothers joke.
I have argued that I support universal health care. The claim was that Obamacare was supported.
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Old 06-13-2013, 09:23 AM
 
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Did I specify a trans vaginal ultrasound? No, I did not, so stop putting words in my mouth.

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Ultrasounds may be performed at any point during pregnancy, and the results are seen immediately on a monitor during the procedure. Transvaginal scans may be used early in pregnancy to diagnose potential ectopic or molar pregnancies.

There is not a recommended number of ultrasounds that should be performed during routine prenatal care. Because ultrasound should only be used when medically indicated, many healthy pregnancies will not require ultrasound. The average number of ultrasounds varies with each healthcare provider. Additional ultrasounds might be ordered separately if your healthcare provider suspects a complication or problem related to your pregnancy.
Ultrasound: Sonogram | American Pregnancy Association

I point out the bolded part also. "should only be used when medically indicated" How do senators know when a procedure is medically indicated?
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Old 06-13-2013, 09:23 AM
 
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Abortion pills & free sterilization? I'm unaware of this.
Look it up, it's a part of the Obama HHS mandate. I suppose some folks might not refer to the morning after pill as an abortion pill, but that is it's function.
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Old 06-13-2013, 09:26 AM
 
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Look it up, it's a part of the Obama HHS mandate. I suppose some folks might not refer to the morning after pill as an abortion pill, but that is it's function.
I PAY for my insurance premiums. So any birth control covered by the insurance company I paid for.
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Old 06-13-2013, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Polls show low support for Obamacare but high support for universal healthcare.

Obamacare is a poorly written,seriously compromised bill written by a congress that was bought off by the for-profit healthcare system. Please don't confuse Obamacare with universal healthcare.

And Wisconsin is a Koch Brothers joke.
ObamaCare became what it was due to recognizing political reality. There is just no way a universal system would have survived Congress. As it was, no Republican voted for it.
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Old 06-13-2013, 09:29 AM
 
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Ultrasound: Sonogram | American Pregnancy Association

I point out the bolded part also. "should only be used when medically indicated" How do senators know when a procedure is medically indicated?
So now you show concern for the fetus, if an ultrasound is used? Yes, the baby can react to ultrasounds, and move abruptly if it's startled by it, because it can feel it, but the simple, non-invasive ultrasound I was referring to offers no risk to the mother.
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