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Old 01-13-2014, 12:07 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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It would have been more entertaining to have had Sarah Palin as president, and equally disastrous.
Maybe we should have elected a statutory ape.
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Old 01-13-2014, 12:08 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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The short answer is that... it doesn't matter, no laws will be rescinded.

The "De Facto Officer Doctrine" establishes that even were Obama found to be a alien from another planet, all his acts as President would remain valid, official and legally binding.

The doctrine was established pretty much for the reason you suggest.

what also can be argued is that the individual states can then refuse to follow any laqw put forth and signed by an illegal potus. also the individual citizen can also refuse to follow any law put forth by an illegal potus.


it is not a hard thing to do, after all if the illegal potus is not wanting to follow the rule of law, then the same can be held for the states, the people and the individual citizen.
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Old 01-13-2014, 12:10 AM
 
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Obama is an anarchist.
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Old 01-13-2014, 12:11 AM
 
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Obama is an anarchist.
For the time being.
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Old 01-13-2014, 12:14 AM
 
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The short answer is that... it doesn't matter, no laws will be rescinded.

The "De Facto Officer Doctrine" establishes that even were Obama found to be a alien from another planet, all his acts as President would remain valid, official and legally binding.
Unless the "De Facto" is the result of fraud, then the law collapses, which then makes the man De Facto, Non-President.
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Old 01-13-2014, 12:32 AM
 
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Unless the "De Facto" is the result of fraud, then the law collapses, which then makes the man De Facto, Non-President.
A Non-President can't even resign from the office if asked, or even by personal volition.
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Old 01-13-2014, 12:39 AM
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There isn't going to be a constitutional crisis just because a bunch of dumb racists keep screeching on the internet and filing baseless lawsuits.
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Former classmates of all other Presidents have come forward and some were in the past presidents cabinets.
Not this one. No one says they went to school with him, not even the people that went to the same schools at the same time. No one recalls Barry.
I can't keep track of this birther nonsense. Does not one person remember him, or have his classmates come forward and said that he identified himself as "a foreigner and a crack-smoking homosexual"?
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Old 01-13-2014, 12:51 AM
 
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There isn't going to be a constitutional crisis just because a bunch of dumb racists keep screeching on the internet and filing baseless lawsuits.
In this thread, it's mostly just uneducated people. I see no inherent evidence of racism.
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Old 01-13-2014, 02:03 AM
 
Location: California
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In this thread, it's mostly just uneducated people. I see no inherent evidence of racism.
Ignorant people. They may very well be educated.
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Old 01-13-2014, 03:32 AM
 
Location: texas
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I still have questions. It seems when backed to far in to a corner they just stop giving answers. Which is another thing I find interesting. Ask a question and if they don't like it they don't answer. Seems to me that's exactly what they are blaming Obama for.
The actual truth is an Impeachment doesn't nullify a presidency. Im sure you have heard this a million times...but the President would have to be charged with an acutal crime and the Senate would vote to remove the President from office.

There would have to be an provable infraction of an actual legal statue to be a crime. Of what crime would the President be charged, tried, and convicted of to be removed from office?

Lastly, even if the President were removed from office, that still would not nullify his tenure as president.
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