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Old 01-13-2014, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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She would have surrounded herself with much more capable people.
Like the ghost writers who write her silly books and put her and her daughter on reality TV shows?
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Old 01-13-2014, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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if he was born in Hawaii he is.
And of course the only authorities on the planet qualified to establish that fact legally (i.e. the State of Hawai'i) have declared that he was.
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Old 01-13-2014, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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what also can be argued is that the individual states can then refuse to follow any laqw put forth and signed by an illegal potus. also the individual citizen can also refuse to follow any law put forth by an illegal potus.
Under who's Constitution and legal system? Egypt's?

Certainly not under ours.
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Old 01-13-2014, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Unless the "De Facto" is the result of fraud,
Nope. Not even then.
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Old 01-13-2014, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Former classmates of all other Presidents have come forward and some were in the past presidents cabinets.
Not this one. No one says they went to school with him, not even the people that went to the same schools at the same time. No one recalls Barry.
You guys believe the most stupid stuff.

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Old 01-13-2014, 08:34 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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You guys believe the most stupid stuff.

Occidental and Columbia

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Critical thinking is an acquired skill that not everyone is capable of achieving. Affirming deeply held prejudices is an emotional hook that everyone is subject to. It's a clear distinction, but not obvious to the easily led.
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Old 01-13-2014, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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The old chain email talking points from birthers will never die out. Some people will simply believe whatever they want to believe. Most of them are old dumb racists with nothing to offer this country in 2014, so it really isn't much of a concern what they believe.
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Old 01-13-2014, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Volcano
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What birthers fail to realize, over and over and over again, is that this train well and truly left the station years ago.

When you watch a baseball game, there's somebody behind home plate called the umpire, who decides which pitches are balls, and which are strikes. They are the person who has the authority to make those calls, on which games and championships and even the World Series are so heavily dependent. And the umpire also has the responsibility to judge those pitches fairly and correctly, along with the attendant walks and outs, etc. But once their call is final it goes into the history books, and no amount of arguing by the fans on the sidelines or at home watching TV will ever change that.

After the 2008 release of Barack Obama's birth record was challenged by people who sought to overturn his election to the Presidency, in 2011 he asked for an official Certified copy to be released to the public by Hawaiian authorities. The Umpire in the Barack Obama birth certificate issue was the Director of the Hawai'i Health Department. She had both the legal authority and the responsibility to officially confirm and certify that the records of Barack Obama's birth August 4, 1961 at Kapiolani Hospital in Honolulu were accurate. And this documentation was legally witnessed by another employee of the Hawaii Department of Health, and released to the public on April 25, 2011.

So that's it. That's the Umpire's official call, and it's in the history books, and nothing will change that at this point. It's dead, Jim! Sorry, but a black man actually did become the President of the united States! Continuing to argue about the official call on Obama's birth is as useless as trying to press the case that Tampa Bay really won the 2008 World Series... your opinion just doesn't change a thing, and frankly, it's boring to hear y'all keep going on and on and on about it, as if reality doesn't matter.

The duly designated umpire made the official call. That game is over. It's a matter for the history books now. Clearly it's time to find something else to obsess over now.

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Old 01-13-2014, 09:14 AM
 
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You guys believe the most stupid stuff.

Occidental and Columbia

Harvard
You're very funny! What is this a love affair with the President site or Michelle's personal blog site? Did you join the "club" just to protect the identity of the President.
I actually found no merit to birthers claims, but seeing how this site you offered is going above and beyond it's call to prove otherwise, makes one wonder. As seen below........

ABOUT US!
Welcome to the Birther Debunkers Wiki. This website is a repository of information for debunking the lies of the "birthers" -- people who challenge President Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility to be President of the United States. Birthers claim that President Obama is not eligible for his office, on the grounds that he is not a "natural born citizen" under Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution. However, all the various assertions of fact and law made by the birthers are composed of nothing but fantasy, unreliable hearsay, and outright lies. We give you the true information, in order to combat the dishonesty, hatred, racism and lunacy that is birtherism.

A good starting point is our Birtherism in a nutshell page.
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Old 01-13-2014, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I couldn't see Obama stepping down no matter what he did what he lied about because he has a get out of jail free card because he can pull the race card anytime he wants and the dems use it constantly.

We were not ready for a black president. That is very evident by the propaganda the left spouts everyday on race. Everytime Obama does something underhanded , he knows the dems will cover him.. and use the race card to get their propaganda point across. I am not fooled..
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