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Old 06-12-2013, 09:36 PM
 
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OK, I was talking to a friend and he said the reason we need to hurry up and impeach Obama is because the longer it takes the more laws will have to be rescinded that he signed as "President".

But if that crisis is going to cover at least 5 years of new laws and appointments, isn't the better thing for the Republic to maintain the status quo?

It seems to me that it is better to suffer the forgery than trigger the Constitutional crises by trying to prevent the Constitutional crisis.
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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The short answer is that... it doesn't matter, no laws will be rescinded.

The "De Facto Officer Doctrine" establishes that even were Obama found to be a alien from another planet, all his acts as President would remain valid, official and legally binding.

The doctrine was established pretty much for the reason you suggest.
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:59 PM
 
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Good God. Give this nonsense a ****ing rest already.
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:02 PM
 
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Good God. Give this nonsense a ****ing rest already.
I still have questions. It seems when backed to far in to a corner they just stop giving answers. Which is another thing I find interesting. Ask a question and if they don't like it they don't answer. Seems to me that's exactly what they are blaming Obama for.
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:31 PM
 
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The short answer is that... it doesn't matter, no laws will be rescinded.

The "De Facto Officer Doctrine" establishes that even were Obama found to be a alien from another planet, all his acts as President would remain valid, official and legally binding.

The doctrine was established pretty much for the reason you suggest.
Thanks! I see where the other side has shot this down (with their logic). 8 USC § 1401 seems pretty solid to me but someone has suggested states can override and someone else said it doesn't count because the words "natural born" aren't in the statute. I guess it should have been written in French.
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Old 01-12-2014, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Thanks! I see where the other side has shot this down (with their logic). 8 USC § 1401 seems pretty solid to me but someone has suggested states can override and someone else said it doesn't count because the words "natural born" aren't in the statute. I guess it should have been written in French.
What difference would that make?
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Old 01-12-2014, 10:51 PM
 
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What difference would that make?
That's Hillaryous!
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Old 01-12-2014, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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That's Hillaryous!
Yes - and it is also correct, because nothing is going to change the fact that President Obama is eligible to be president by virtue of him being born in Honolulu, HI.
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Old 01-12-2014, 10:57 PM
 
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Yes - and it is also correct, because nothing is going to change the fact that President Obama is eligible to be president by virtue of him being born in Honolulu, HI.
To be eligible, one must qualify.

Without de facto qualification!
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Old 01-12-2014, 11:13 PM
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Location: Greenville, SC
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It seems to me that it is better to suffer the forgery than trigger the Constitutional crises by trying to prevent the Constitutional crisis.
Agreed.

What would the impeachment process accomplish?

No one has the political will to throw this President out, therefore, impeachment or not, he will remain.
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