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Old 06-13-2013, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Walton County, GA
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There is a huge difference between being tracked and being able to be tracked. Lots of data is collected and stored. Most of us are not being tracked, unless you have a reason somebody would be tracking you.

They still need to get a warrant.

There is also some data that is collected and used that is not identifiable to you specifically. This is common with map software and cellular networks/phones.
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Old 06-13-2013, 01:01 PM
 
Location: On the Group W bench
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If you have a cellphone, credit card, GPS device, Wi Fi, TV, Tablet computer, etc. you are already being tracked. If this makes you nervous, throw it all away.

Any time you go to the doctor, ER, urgent care or the hospital, your info is tracked by insurance companies. When you buy prescriptions, same thing. We gave up out privacy a long time ago for the electronic toys we love.

And if anybody thinks this NSA stuff is brand new, let me clue you in...it isn't. This kind of thing has been going on since waaay before the patriot act was even conceived.
But... but ... Obama! NSA! Benghazi!

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Old 06-13-2013, 01:02 PM
 
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Most of us do already. It's called a cell phone. Every cell phone in the US, unless it is quite obsolete, can be tracked. It is required by law.
Not to be pedantic, but it is also required for the system to work. Your phone roams from tower to tower when on, and the owners of the towers want their capacity paid for by the company you pay your bill to.
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Old 06-13-2013, 01:03 PM
 
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Blame Steve Jobs! He is the one who devised these devices...
Ehm - no?
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Old 06-13-2013, 01:03 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Most already do; it's called a "cell phone."
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Old 06-13-2013, 01:04 PM
 
Location: "Chicago"
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Ehm - no?
Just pokin' fun at the various ways the word has been spelled in this thread...
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Old 06-13-2013, 01:07 PM
 
Location: texas
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Everyone must carry a tracking devise at all times, would you rebel? Or are you already consenting to be tracked?

Student expelled for refusing to wear RFID tracking chip badge | ZDNet

Girl refuses to wear tracking ID badge...No one skips a beat. She won the right not to wear the badge, but all other students are still required to wear the tracking ID badges.
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Old 06-13-2013, 01:10 PM
 
Location: North America
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But... but ... Obama! NSA! Benghazi!


What folks don't seem to understand in all theirObama knee jerkery is that people have been tracked long before any of this NSA stuff came to light. They did it in WW2 (and before) it just took longer. Woodrow Wilson had people opposed to the War imprisoned. What do people think the house committee on unamerican activities did--crochet?
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Old 06-13-2013, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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If you have a cellphone, credit card, GPS device, Wi Fi, TV, Tablet computer, etc. you are already being tracked. If this makes you nervous, throw it all away.

Any time you go to the doctor, ER, urgent care or the hospital, your info is tracked by insurance companies. When you buy prescriptions, same thing. We gave up out privacy a long time ago for the electronic toys we love.

And if anybody thinks this NSA stuff is brand new, let me clue you in...it isn't. This kind of thing has been going on since waaay before the patriot act was even conceived.


Absolutely.

Project Shamrock dates back to 1945. All incoming and outgoing telegrams were relayed and read. FISA limited the powers of the NSA in the late 70's. Those policies were reinterpreted or ignored within the Bush admin and carried forward:

Project SHAMROCK - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Operation Shamrock: NSA’s First Domestic Spying Program Was Revealed by Congress in 1975*Pensito Review
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Old 06-13-2013, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Everyone must carry a tracking devise at all times, would you rebel? Or are you already consenting to be tracked?
Pet owners are given the option to have a tracking devise implanted in their pet. The cost is about $50.

If the parents of every newborn were given a similar option, I suspect most parents would be inclined to opt in.
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