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Why the hatred of unions in the USA ? unions fought for and won all the rights that people take for granted at work. I employed an American in Australia for my post stressing team, but there is no way he wanted to join a union so I ended up doing his contract myself. But here is the kicker, I told him no union no profit share, would the average American give up income not to join a union ? But the hypocrisy is this, he was happy to take the six weeks of holiday time that had been won by the union.
The hatred stems from the fact that it creates a big bureacracy, the unions are often controlled by the mafia and criminal organizations, union leader are often corrupt and do nothing for the workers but take the money. If you are in a company and see 5 lazy guys doing nothing but you work hard and promotions are usually not merit but seniority based in union environments.
Without unions, well america would look more like china in terms of work place. The boss could beat and abuse you, but now the labour laws ban alot of the bad practice of former. Americans believe in individual liberty, they do not want others making important decisions for them.
The hatred stems from the fact that it creates a big bureacracy, the unions are often controlled by the mafia and criminal organizations, union leader are often corrupt and do nothing for the workers but take the money. If you are in a company and see 5 lazy guys doing nothing but you work hard and promotions are usually not merit but seniority based in union environments.
I got tired of seeing that at non unionized places I worked at. I had wished the boss would light a fire under the lazy guys to make them work faster.
WRONG: While they are not identical type stores to Walmart, Costco and Hobby Lobby gives higher pay.
Each can cherry pick the top 2% of WM, and volla, they are fully staffed. Now the other 98% of WM staff - were it not for WM-would work for the same pay at Target, KMart, Dollar General, or any other "run of the mill" retailer.
Yes they should be. Let's say we have two people, person A and person B. They both work 12 hour days as coal miners, six days/week, for $10/hr.
Person A spends 2 hours/workday studying new skills and eight hours on every day off studying. A year later person A builds a skillset that a software engineering firm views as valuable, and is offered a job for $30/hr for 40 hours/week as a result.
Person B goes home, watches TV, cooks dinner, never studies, never opens a book. On his day off, he doesn't read, he just relaxes, takes care of his home. A year later, he still is making $10/hr as a coal miner.
Person B 100% deserves $10/hr, where person A 100% deserves $30/hr. Do you seriously disagree?
Apples and oranges here, because miner A has left the industry.
How about the situation where miner B gets his pay cut to $5/hr because the bosses want more profits?
So in your mind, the unskilled worker should earn as much as someone who took the time and effort to learn / enhance their skill(s)? Sure sounds like this is what you are saying Ken.
not exactly the same, but they shouldn't have their wages suppressed in order to feed the higher ups artificially high salaries and perks.
Getting execs to try to rescue a long shot demands a compensation package which will pay them throughout the period they would not be working, if the longshot, as expected failed.
so just the same as a 'welfare queen' then
funny how you support this kind of idleness - let me guess, it is in your interests to do so?
Real average earnings have not increased in nearly half a century. But according to you all, it's because the American people have made bad "lifestyle" choices.
No we said people that stay in min wage jobs made bad decisions.
What did you really expect?
1. Automation
2. Globalization.
3. Women joining the workforce (this nearly doubled the workforce btw, especially at the lower end)
4.Developed and developing countries starting to produce and compete with the USA
5. Lower income people having more kids.
6. Raising FICA to 15.3%, just wait until we raise this again.
Just a couple of things that contributed to our labor surplus:
Secretaries are not needed as much because of computers, but when computers started to replace secretaries the former secretaries still existed.
Travel agents aren't needed as much thanks to the internet.
Apples and oranges here, because miner A has left the industry.
How about the situation where miner B gets his pay cut to $5/hr because the bosses want more profits?
This is what will happen without unions.
What in the world are you talking about? According to that theory, everybody not in a union should be making $5/hr or at least min wage, yet only 2% of people make min wage.
Btw, most unionized people, albeit just a slight majority, work for the government.
Apples and oranges here, because miner A has left the industry.
How about the situation where miner B gets his pay cut to $5/hr because the bosses want more profits?
This is what will happen without unions.
You didn't answer my question. Do persons A and B deserve the same wage, or does person A deserve $30/hr? Please answer the question.
If person B's pay gets cut, what was his backup plan in case he needed to find a new job? I assume he had one.
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