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Old 06-22-2013, 01:06 PM
 
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The following is indeed factual...

Read their exact words, again:
I don't take orders from imbeciles, doubly for those that have no allegiance to this country like yourself.
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Old 06-22-2013, 01:11 PM
 
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"But what won't prevent Cruz from becoming president is his place of birth. Cruz was born in Calgary, Canada, while his parents were living there. His father is now an American citizen, but was not at the time; his mother, however, was born in the United States. Helpfully, the Congressional Research Service gathered all of the information relevant to Cruz's case a few years ago, at the height (nadir?) of Obama birtherism. In short, the Constitution says that the president must be a natural-born citizen. "The weight of scholarly legal and historical opinion appears to support the notion that 'natural born Citizen' means one who is entitled under the Constitution or laws of the United States to U.S. citizenship 'at birth' or 'by birth,' including any child born 'in' the United States, the children of United States citizens born abroad, and those born abroad of one citizen parents who has met U.S. residency requirements," the CRS's Jack Maskell wrote. So in short: Cruz is a citizen; Cruz is not naturalized; therefore Cruz is a natural-born citizen, and in any case his mother is a citizen. You can read the CRS memo (second link)."

Yes, Ted Cruz Can Be Born in Canada and Still Become President of the U.S. - David A. Graham - The Atlantic

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42097.pdf

I'd vote for him.
Yeah, he's a "natural-born citizen", but, alas, he is not a natural born citizen.

He's only a hyphenated "natural born citizen".
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Old 06-22-2013, 01:13 PM
 
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"But what won't prevent Cruz from becoming president is his place of birth. Cruz was born in Calgary, Canada, while his parents were living there. His father is now an American citizen, but was not at the time; his mother, however, was born in the United States. Helpfully, the Congressional Research Service gathered all of the information relevant to Cruz's case a few years ago, at the height (nadir?) of Obama birtherism. In short, the Constitution says that the president must be a natural-born citizen. "The weight of scholarly legal and historical opinion appears to support the notion that 'natural born Citizen' means one who is entitled under the Constitution or laws of the United States to U.S. citizenship 'at birth' or 'by birth,' including any child born 'in' the United States, the children of United States citizens born abroad, and those born abroad of one citizen parents who has met U.S. residency requirements," the CRS's Jack Maskell wrote. So in short: Cruz is a citizen; Cruz is not naturalized; therefore Cruz is a natural-born citizen, and in any case his mother is a citizen. You can read the CRS memo (second link)."

Yes, Ted Cruz Can Be Born in Canada and Still Become President of the U.S. - David A. Graham - The Atlantic

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42097.pdf

I'd vote for him.
The birthers believe that one line from a State department memo that says "got us" is authoritative on the matter in their favor not a 53 page report to the people that actually matter in the question.

This is how they are not patriots. The hold every branch of the government in contempt. "Maybe not" means "no" to them and three words mean everything instead of the actual law.

Remember, a poster on this thread wants Obama removed by force and does not recognize that he is president.
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Old 06-22-2013, 01:14 PM
 
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Birther Hypocrisy- Right Wing Has No Problem With Canadian Born Senator Ted Cruz Running For President
Birther Hypocrisy- Right Wing Has No Problem With Canadian Born Senator Ted Cruz Running For President - Forbes
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Old 06-22-2013, 01:16 PM
 
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Birther Hypocrisy- Right Wing Has No Problem With Canadian Born Senator Ted Cruz Running For President
Birther Hypocrisy- Right Wing Has No Problem With Canadian Born Senator Ted Cruz Running For President - Forbes
There's different kinds of bithers like everybody else. It started from on an attack on McCain and it will continue for three years on Cruz who I'm sure won't even run.
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Old 06-22-2013, 01:31 PM
 
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The birthers believe that one line from a State department memo that says "got us" is authoritative on the matter in their favor not a 53 page report to the people that actually matter in the question.

This is how they are not patriots. The hold every branch of the government in contempt. "Maybe not" means "no" to them and three words mean everything instead of the actual law.

Remember, a poster on this thread wants Obama removed by force and does not recognize that he is president.
Who?

Who?

Give us his name!

Give us his quote including full-text context.

Take the jacks out of your mouth, or folks will recognize you as dishonest.
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Old 06-22-2013, 01:33 PM
 
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Who?

Who?

Give us his name!
That would be a fact and I don't want to be responsible for you breaking in to an allergic reaction. Get an eppi pen first.
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Old 06-22-2013, 01:37 PM
 
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Gray listed no such requirement. On the contrary, he repeatedly declared explicitly that domicile (of any form) was irrelevant.
False.

Gray's ruling:

"The evident intention, and ***the necessary effect***, of the submission of this case to the *decision of the court upon the facts agreed by the parties* were to *present for determination ***the single question*** stated at the beginning of this opinion, *namely*, whether a child born in the United States, of parent of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but *have a permanent domicil and residence in the United States*, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China, becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States. For the reasons above stated, this court is of opinion that the question must be answered in the affirmative"

Question asked and answered. It's a tenet of law. Look it up.
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Old 06-22-2013, 01:42 PM
 
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That would be a fact and I don't want to be responsible for you breaking in to an allergic reaction. Get an eppi pen first.
You should learn to be more responsible without people having to constantly try holding you to it.

Spit out your jacks!
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Old 06-22-2013, 01:43 PM
 
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You should learn to be more responsible without people having to constantly try holding you to it.

Spit out your jacks!
Government spooks - ya gotta love 'em!
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