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The constitution also forbids any person witha title of nobility becoming an officer in the US so he can’t say be a Knightor a Lord and become President. He also must live or reside in the US for 14years before running.
The Constitution does not say that.
Article I, Section 9, Paragraph 8 says:
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No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.
If the title of nobility has been granted with the consent of Congress, it's perfectly okay for an "officer of the US" to hold one.
Are you saying as a CANADIAN Cruz is not a subject of the crown ? Or are you saying Cruz is not Canadian because he has an American mother ?
I'm saying as an American Cruz is not a subject of the crown. I might raise an eyebrow if he maintained a Canadian passport but the United States is not part of an international treaty that enforces someone to be a subject based on their birthplace.
I don't care how you become American, you aren't involuntarily subject to any other government.
But your question is invalid. First you are implying that an American can be subject to the crown because of where they were born. While that is false you're missing the bigger picture. Canadians are not subject to the crown. Only members of the military and government swear any kind of allegiance to the crown and I don't care if you think that makes them a subject or not unless you are alleging that before age 4 Cruz was a member of the military or government.
So, if you want to ask your question in general, I'd say "who knows" and "who cares" because it's too hypothetical.
If you want to ask it in regards to Cruz, then I standbuy my allegation that it's a false question (and premise) because Cruz is American and Canadians are not subject to the crown.
If the title of nobility has been granted with the consent of Congress, it's perfectly okay for an "officer of the US" to hold one.
And the key too is what you are replying to is regarding who can become president. That isn't mentioned in the Constitution. It says the person already in office cannot accept the title without the consent of Congress. It doesn't mean they cannot hold one before they are in office.
a natural born citizen, but not a native born citizen.
Where is this distinction coming from? The term natural born and native born appear to be freely interchangeable from the drafting of the Constitution thru the debates on the adoption of the 14th Amendment. It is also a distinction that I've never heard you draw before. So, help me out here.
Ted Cruz is a interesting bloke, born in Canada so a Canadian subject of the Queen of Canada. So does Cruz have the right to become US president when he was born in and owes his loyalty to her majesty and Canada ?
His mother was American, so I guess he would qualify
Actually, I'm a card carrying atheist, no spirituality for me thank you very much.
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Who needs the Constitution when ya got code?
Here are a couple of more quotes from the U.S. Constitution that are clear, and unequivocal.
Article VI, Clause 2
"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.
Which brings us back to:
Article I section 8, clause 18:
The Congress shall have Power - To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
Actually, I'm a card carrying atheist, no spirituality for me thank you very much.
Here are a couple of more quotes from the U.S. Constitution that are clear, and unequivocal.
Article VI, Clause 2
"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.
Which brings us back to:
Article I section 8, clause 18:
The Congress shall have Power - To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
Do you need a link as well?
So, genius, where's your Natural Born Citizen statute?
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