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Old 06-19-2013, 07:11 PM
 
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Because he was told ONCE AGAIN to stay out of it.

You don't see a pattern here? "WE DON'T NEED YOU TO DO THAT".

He says "OK", and than does just what he was told not to do.

BTW, the residents of the condo complex(many of whom had complained about Zimmerman being overzealous) are now being sued by Martin's family.

How would you like to be a condo owner who maybe wanted to sell your condo, forget about it, no one is going to buy a condo in a place where a lawsuit is going on.

The problems this guy caused goes well beyond the Martin family.
Go back and read Post 44 carefully please.
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:17 PM
 
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That would pretty much depend upon what I was doing that led up to it.
If I was walking minding my own business? I would open a can.
The fact is that GZ was stalking the youth whose only crime was to be out walking.
The fact is that GZ was told to stop the pursuit and let the police do their jobs.
The fact is no one knows what would have happened if someone didn't play superhero.
Please read up what stalking is. Even lets say Z was stalking T for years, it still would not give T any justification to use force. If T used force, Z, the stalker, would still be within his right to fight back with lethal force when necessary.
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:24 PM
 
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the dispatcher told him not to follow, not the police. different matter completely.
You are taught, as a member of the Neighborhood Watch, not to follow suspicious persons and to allow law enforcement to take care of the matter.

A perusal of Doofus's background reveals him to be a junior G-man, cop wannabe of questionable character. He was dangerous for a long time and it was probably only a matter of time before he harmed someone.

It's a shame the kid didn't just drop Doofus on his head, knock him out and run away. There's a slight chance that a lesson would have been learned.
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Why shouldn't he have been allowed to be in the neighborhood, wasn't his mother there?
No.
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:44 PM
 
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You are taught, as a member of the Neighborhood Watch, not to follow suspicious persons and to allow law enforcement to take care of the matter.

A perusal of Doofus's background reveals him to be a junior G-man, cop wannabe of questionable character. He was dangerous for a long time and it was probably only a matter of time before he harmed someone.

It's a shame the kid didn't just drop Doofus on his head, knock him out and run away. There's a slight chance that a lesson would have been learned.
Are you promoting illegal activities here?
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:58 PM
 
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What would you do if you were part of the neighborhood watch and it was dark and a tall teenager like the one in the picture jumps you and starts hitting you.


Would you let him get the gun you have with you? Would you be scared he could kill you if he gets your gun?

Would you let him beat you until he stops?

Would you try to talk to him, "please, stop hurting me, let's be civilized, stop, let me go home"?

Would you do something else?

The picture is the one of Trayvon Martin, this case is hot in our region, and I would like to know the forumers opinions.






Trayvon Martin was punching Neighborhood Watchman when he was shot.flv - YouTube.flv - YouTube


why do you people keep trying to make this worse than it already is??
a guy is dead
another guy is on trial
let it go and let the court handle this
the two sides that keep bashing each other is getting old
I have been sick of hearing about it from all of you
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Since Zimmerman instigated the contact, it's a moot question, because that's not how it happened.
Sounds like you were there. So tell us your first hand account.
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:45 PM
 
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Are you promoting illegal activities here?
Your presumption that Martin dropping Doofus on his head would be illegal is illuminating on a couple counts. First, you folks have insisted on one hand that we do not

On the one hand, you geniuses have insisted that we cannot pass judgment until all the facts are known. Naturally, your presumptions only extend in one direction and it isn't particularly difficult to understand why.

Second, you folks have no problem allowing that Americans may use force when they feel threatened. In fact, you actively support the codification of this principle, particularly when it allows for the use of a gun against these threatening persons. This is why your ilk has been so intent on casting Martin as the aggressor. If it turns out that Doofus was the aggressor, you have a huge slice of hypocrisy lying on your plate, not to mention the fact that dropping Doofus on his head could have been simple self-defense, and, therefore, legal.
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Old 06-19-2013, 09:10 PM
 
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The Skittlesbandit had a very thuggish background. I have zero doubts that Zimmerman was getting his face pounded-in when he shot the Skittlesbandit. BUT.....the Skittlesbandit is a saint in the media and also will be one in court....his thuggish past will not be allowed to come out in court. I see a railroading in progress....it has been building up for a long time.

The State or the corrupt and insane Fed will make sure a clearly innocent man is deep-sixed for a very, very long time.
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Old 06-19-2013, 09:15 PM
 
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Your presumption that Martin dropping Doofus on his head would be illegal is illuminating on a couple counts. First, you folks have insisted on one hand that we do not

On the one hand, you geniuses have insisted that we cannot pass judgment until all the facts are known. Naturally, your presumptions only extend in one direction and it isn't particularly difficult to understand why.

Second, you folks have no problem allowing that Americans may use force when they feel threatened. In fact, you actively support the codification of this principle, particularly when it allows for the use of a gun against these threatening persons. This is why your ilk has been so intent on casting Martin as the aggressor. If it turns out that Doofus was the aggressor, you have a huge slice of hypocrisy lying on your plate, not to mention the fact that dropping Doofus on his head could have been simple self-defense, and, therefore, legal.
Read post 51.
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