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Old 06-19-2013, 05:22 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Definition of conspiracy nut

1) conspiracy is the first and primary cause, before any evidence available
2) all evidence is sifted to ensure 1 is not called into question using confirmation bias
3) extraordinary claims without extraordinary evidence are the norm


US navy had a live fire exercise
THEN US navy locked onto a commercial jet
THEN us navy fired
THEN US Navy and crew covered it up
THEN the FAA, FBI, and Media went along with it
THEN the crew of the Navy ship went along with it

It requires a huge house of cards
And the six original govt investigators described in the OP said none of those things.

Thanks for emphasizing that they are NOT "conspiracy nuts".
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Old 06-19-2013, 05:53 PM
 
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I always thought the US Navy accidentally shot the plane down and then we had a cover up. With recent revelations we've learned that the feds are capable of lying and hiding the truth.
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Old 06-19-2013, 05:56 PM
 
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Good grief people! I am in the Navy, and have never heard of this crap! How about providing some "evidence" that the Navy did it eh?
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Old 06-19-2013, 05:56 PM
 
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I always thought the US Navy accidentally shot the plane down and then we had a cover up.
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Old 06-19-2013, 05:59 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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US navy had a live fire exercise
THEN US navy locked onto a commercial jet
THEN us navy fired
BTW, for what reason have you left out the possibility that the Navy might have fired at a normal dummy target, then the missile detected a big blip overhead with four nice, hot engines, and turned and went after that instead?

Still highly unlikely, as I said earlier - I don't see how the Navy, or any Navy, could do a live fire in a heavily traveled commercial zone without coordinating with all ATC facilities AND sweeping the sky for a hundred miles around with radar to ensure there were NO aircraft operating in the vicinity... or that the HUNDREDS of people involved in such a scenario, could later achieve a perfect, 100% score for keeping their mouths completely shut about so monstrous a thing for 17 years.

ANY scenario involving the US Navy, requires such a long string of unlikely mistakes and screwups, as to make the possibility vanishingly small.

Alsmost as small as the chance of an internal spark in a fuel tank.
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Pa
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I always thought the US Navy accidentally shot the plane down and then we had a cover up.
How would a Naval ship accidentally shoot an American airliner down that is squawking IFF?
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:21 PM
 
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The article I read seemed to indicated they examined the wreck when working but were not investigators really. Like of sounds like they were like a beat patrolmen at a murder scene. Also they disagreed with not one investigation teams that based much of their finding on evidence by examination by experts I lab; not the eyeball. Happens all the time with witnesses and investigators theories based on observation versus scientific testing of evidence.
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:25 PM
 
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And the six original govt investigators described in the OP said none of those things.

Thanks for emphasizing that they are NOT "conspiracy nuts".
Some of the replies on this thread are amazing. Do people realize that the people coming forward were PART of the accident investigation team? I put much more credibility in to their opinions than any of the people crying "conspiracy theory!!".
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:28 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Good grief people! I am in the Navy, and have never heard of this crap! How about providing some "evidence" that the Navy did it eh?
You'd be the last person they would tell.

BTW, is there a Navy in Denver ?
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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There is a discussion over on the Aviation forum if anyone is interested.

TWA 800 - What do you think?
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