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thank you for pointing this out. a vote in favor of "in god we trust" is a support of chosen faith, but not a social policy that favors freedom of religion. anybody that understands the concepts of our freedoms understands that no specific belief set should be imposed onto us. i dont trust in god, but im an american. where does that leave me? forced to accept it? thats no freedom.
Well, somebody should've told the folks who actually wrote the Constitution, since the word "God" doesn't appear in it once.
The wonderful thing about America is that it has a secular government with a godless constitution. If there's anything worth defending about America, that's it.
Actually I would consider the preamble to the Declaration of Independance as defining "what America as a nation is all about",Life liberty and happiness comes from our Creator,and the Consitution is ours laws to prevent anyone from subverting those rights.
In many other godless societies like Castro,Soviet Russia,China and such they subvert religion to make themselves or the state as god.So regardless whether you believe in god or not,it's in our best interests to not allow people or government to claim themselves as god.
The article says that "In God We Trust" is "the nation's motto." That isn't true. Our nation doesn't have an official "motto," what tripe. We have a motto that is placed specifically on coins and legal tender. Period. But of course that isn't enough to PLEASE THE MULLAHS. The mullahs should tape $1 bills to their foreheads with the words "In God We Trust" circled and highlighted.
History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government.
-Thomas Jefferson
Yepper. The only roadblock to this WONDERFUL step in the right direction will be the far leftwing nutcases of the ACLU [Mod Cut] will sue and try to bully the school. I hope they FIGHT this out! We can win as there aren't as many liberal activist judges in higher courts than it used to be!! ^_^
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That's strange. It doesn't prohibit Congress opening each day's session with a prayer...
So opening invocations by different individuals of different faiths to a government body of adults of many different faiths who can choose to attend the prayer session or not is the same as putting in issues of faith to impressionable young children under the direction of school authority, you consider those to be the same?
Yepper. The only roadblock to this WONDERFUL step in the right direction will be the far leftwing nutcases of the ACLU [Mod Cut] will sue and try to bully the school. I hope they FIGHT this out! We can win as there aren't as many liberal activist judges in higher courts than it used to be!! ^_^
Looks like I’ll have to contribute more money to the ACLU when a concerned citizen and parent sues the school for violation of the Establishment Clause. Take the religious issues of faith back where they belong, in home and/or church. Whiny people who feel they need to push their faith on children really tell me they have such weak belief in their own god they need to force it on to the public.
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So opening invocations by different individuals of different faiths to a government body of adults of many different faiths who can choose to attend the prayer session or not is the same as putting in issues of faith to impressionable young children under the direction of school authority, you consider those to be the same?
No one's forcing these children to pray. Putting a poster in a school isn't forcing faith on any child. Your argument could apply to virtually every single kind of advertisement in schools today.
It's sad that school systems choose to waste their tax payer's money by doing things like this. OBVIOUSLY there'll be a lawsuit with TONS of legal fees.
But keep on, as attorneys fees won through lawsuits fatten the ACLU's coffers!
No one's forcing these children to pray. Putting a poster in a school isn't forcing faith on any child. Your argument could apply to virtually every single kind of advertisement in schools today.
I lived in Southern California for many years near Bakersfield and am very familiar with Jacquie Sullivan and her methods and ideals. She’s been pushing religion and prayer into schools and city councils. That’s the end goal for her. This is just a stepping stone for her to get her brand of christianity into the schools. I’m not looking at this in a vacuum, I’ve seen her history of attempts and fights.
It isnt prayer but it tries to wedge a belief system to children that this nation is “founded” on religion and if they don’t go towards the authority’s preferred brand, then they are outsiders. How do kids feel being outsiders?
Not the same as any othe kind of advertisement, that’s not even a close comparison.
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