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Old 06-27-2013, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I missed the part where he said Obama was behind it. That's the only way this would make it a scandal.
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:31 AM
 
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Ummm, the IRS said "sorry" yea, we done it...
Yes ... but that was yesterday ... that's old news. The ministry of information reserves the right to rewrite history as it sees fit to do in their imitable and well practiced Orwellian style.

In fact ... all that is required is the common leftist answer to every government crime now ... "Oh, that's been debunked" .. and the debate is over.
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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And some are still waiting! Don't you think a year or two or three is a bit long? Sounds more like intentional delay.



Biden? Who is Biden? Oh yes! Now I remember. Where has he been? Probably locked away in solitary.
According to some of the people interviewed, apparently it is not "a bit long." They fully expected the process to take as long as it did/has, so, I guess that again it is a matter of perception.

The liberal groups expected long approval processes and did not feel "targeted, harassed, etc." by the paperwork, questionnaires and other documentation they were asked to provide.

The conservative groups saw persecution around every corner and took complaints of those perceived attacks to their congresspeople whereby the audit was launched.

Perfect examples of what has been shown to be very distinct differences between liberal and conservative brains.

Conservatives Scare More Easily Than Liberals, Say Scientists | Wired Science | Wired.com

Unconscious Reactions Separate Liberals and Conservatives: Scientific American
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:44 AM
 
Location: On the border of off the grid
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I missed the part where he said Obama was behind it. That's the only way this would make it a scandal.

Obama and Valerie Jarrett (along with Timothy Geithner) weren't "behind" it, they were leading the crusade!

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A quote allegedly by Obama senior adviser Valerie Jarrett has been spreading like wildfire online lately: “After we win this election, it’s our turn. Payback time. Everyone not with us is against us, and they better be ready, because we don’t forget. The ones who helped us will be rewarded; the ones who opposed us will get what they deserve. There is going to be hell to pay. Congress won’t be a problem for us this time. No election to worry about after this is over, and we have two judges ready to go.”
Read more at Is this what Obama meant by ‘revenge’?
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:45 AM
 
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I missed the part where he said Obama was behind it. That's the only way this would make it a scandal.
You cant be that dumb...

Scandal
something causing public outrage: a situation or event that causes public outrage or censure
public outrage: an outburst of public outrage or censure as a consequence of an event
malicious talk: malicious talk, especially about other people's private lives

Where the hell do you think the President needs to be involved for it to be defined as a scandal?
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:46 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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I missed the part where he said Obama was behind it. That's the only way this would make it a scandal.
He did say that the buck stops with him.

And, since he appointed people to these positions whom he knew would act in accordance with his ideology/goals, you might say he was behind it.

When you know what your boss wants done in the company, does he/she have to micromanage you every step of the way? Or, do you just do it.
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Old 06-27-2013, 11:12 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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According to some of the people interviewed, apparently it is not "a bit long." They fully expected the process to take as long as it did/has, so, I guess that again it is a matter of perception.

The liberal groups expected long approval processes and did not feel "targeted, harassed, etc." by the paperwork, questionnaires and other documentation they were asked to provide.

The conservative groups saw persecution around every corner and took complaints of those perceived attacks to their congresspeople whereby the audit was launched.

Perfect examples of what has been shown to be very distinct differences between liberal and conservative brains.

Conservatives Scare More Easily Than Liberals, Say Scientists | Wired Science | Wired.com

Unconscious Reactions Separate Liberals and Conservatives: Scientific American
And those links are supposed to show that Conservatives see "persecution around every corner." What you call "perfect examples" is really the product of biased, selective reading on your part.
For example, from your links:

"Instead of political opponents thinking their opposite party is simply being willfully bullheaded," said Hibbing, "you can say, ‘Well, they see a little differently than I do.’"

Conservatives are more attuned than liberals to assessing potential threats.
( You might say conservatives don’t wear blinders. That’s a good thing!)

Examination of the contents of 76 college students' bedrooms revealed that conservatives possessed more cleaning and organizational items, such as ironing boards and calendars, confirmation that they are orderly and self-disciplined.
(Organized and clean is a good thing.)

Research conducted by Nail and his colleague in the weeks after September 11, 2001, showed that people of all political persuasions became more conservative in the wake of the terrorist attacks.
(Even liberals were more in tune with reality in the wake of the attacks. You might call that heightened awareness of potential threats. That's a good thing.)

In one experiment, liberals said they were willing to betray group loyalty, disrespect authority or do something disgusting, such as eating their own dog after it dies, for cash. Conservatives said they were less willing to compromise on any of the moral categories.
(Standing firm on principles is a good thing.)

In conclusion, one of the researchers himself has morphed from liberal to centrist over the course of his research. He now finds value in conservative tenets that he used to reject reflexively.

Liberals have a knee-jerk reaction and reject reflexively. He used to, but he was open minded enough to recognize it in himself.

Most liberals are not and will not.

Thanks, but I'll stick with conservatives. It appears they are more orderly and logical, more analytical, more aware and have keener insights. Liberals just go with the flow..."whatever, dude..."
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:00 PM
 
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And while they wait that are allowed to act as exempt organizations and not harmed by any delay.
They are. Many ask for verification that an organization is actually tax exempt before donating to them. Especially a new one.
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:02 PM
 
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Issa is not to be trusted,nearly all of what he claims is nothing more than b ull c rap with no proof or facts to back up his claims,the latest IRS debacle being a case in point.
The Morning Plum: Darrell Issa backtracks on IRS scandal

Darrell Issa: Witch-Hunting FAILURE! - Americans Against the Tea Party
The news that progressive groups were also targeted by the IRS should, in theory at least,

LOL, "in theory at least". LOL

Yes, in theory, not in actuality.
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:05 PM
 
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I missed the part where he said Obama was behind it. That's the only way this would make it a scandal.
Nobody of any account has claimed he was. Your desperation is starting to get to the point of decomposition.
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