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Old 06-22-2013, 11:04 AM
 
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Yet Zimmerman got out of his vehicle and followed TM. He admitted to the dispatcher that he was following TM.
To see where he was going ?

The point isn't that tm was a giant who'd frighten the wits out of a stranger because of size. The point is he was large enough to not himself be intimidated and to hit and knock down an opponent. Try as you might, you can't turn the clock back to when 17 year-old tm was sweetie pie Slimm.

 
Old 06-22-2013, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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To see where he was going ?

The point isn't that tm was a giant who'd frighten the wits out of a stranger because of size. The point is he was large enough to not himself be intimidated and to hit and knock down an opponent. Try as you might, you can't turn the clock back to when 17 year-old tm was sweetie pie Slimm.
I would be terrified if I was walking home from a convenience store after dark and some guy first followed me with his truck, got out of his truck, and ran after me!

Also, age has everything to do with fright and TM was only 17 years old.
 
Old 06-22-2013, 11:12 AM
 
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I would be terrified if I was walking home from a convenience store after dark and some guy first followed me with his truck, got out of his truck, and ran after me!

Also, age has everything to do with fright and TM was only 17 years old.
Maybe tm was terrified.

I don't know that being 17 made him more terrified than if he'd have been older. If it fit the narrative, you might be saying a 17 year-old is too stupid to know fear when they should.
 
Old 06-22-2013, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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But he smoked cannabis! And put Gang signs on his Facebook page!
And if that wasn't enough, he had the nerve to be walking down the street, scaring this Zimmerman guy with his blackness! The kid obviously had it coming.
All of which GZ had prior knowledge of, not! (Agreeing with you.)
 
Old 06-22-2013, 11:18 AM
 
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To see where he was going ?

The point isn't that tm was a giant who'd frighten the wits out of a stranger because of size. The point is he was large enough to not himself be intimidated and to hit and knock down an opponent. Try as you might, you can't turn the clock back to when 17 year-old tm was sweetie pie Slimm.
Not trying to make TM "sweetie pie Slimm"....just an ordinary person walking home, one of Zimmerman's neighbors.
 
Old 06-22-2013, 11:21 AM
 
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Maybe tm was terrified.

I don't know that being 17 made him more terrified than if he'd have been older. If it fit the narrative, you might be saying a 17 year-old is too stupid to know fear when they should.
By normal standards, Zimmerman at age 28, should have been at least somewhat wiser than Martin at 17. After all, Zimmerman had had 11 more years of life experience than Martin.
 
Old 06-22-2013, 11:23 AM
 
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The released photos show Mr. Zimmerman beat up pretty bad by Martin.
 
Old 06-22-2013, 11:24 AM
 
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The released photos show Mr. Zimmerman beat up pretty bad by Martin.
It's pretty clear that Zimmerman was just defending himself. The same people calling for Zimmerman's head on a platter thought OJ was innocent and voted for Obama twice. In other words, they long ago lost any credibility on any issue.
 
Old 06-22-2013, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Not trying to make TM "sweetie pie Slimm"....just an ordinary person walking home, one of Zimmerman's neighbors.
Exactly. The problem is some want Tm to be the wounded dove and some want GZ to be the unsung hero.
The reality is GZ pushed the envelope of common sense into the area of stupid.
TM walking minding his own could have and should have ran home or simply asked what GZ was about.
We dont know what led to the conflict other than GZ's word which is in question.
GZ does in fact have a history that demonstrates self control issues, anger issues and poor judgment.
TM has a history also but he was also 17 and I haven't met a lot of 17 year olds who do well under pressure.
Neither are innocent lambs.
A gun in the hands of a hot head? It is a scary thought.
 
Old 06-22-2013, 11:27 AM
 
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The released photos show Mr. Zimmerman beat up pretty bad by Martin.
OR he did it to himself to build an alibi...
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