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People who placed themselves in situations by sleezing around and now have debilitating STD's.
Let's remember the junkies, who suffer from things like Hep-C and malnutrition from their choices.
Yes, and don't forget to include those who eat sugar (THOSE junkies, yes) since diabetes is responsible for many, many more disabled than Hep-C (which wouldn't even be debillating until it was very advanced) or most other diseases combined.
What are these "debilitating STD's" people are getting disability for?
Yes, and don't forget to include those who eat sugar (THOSE junkies, yes) since diabetes is responsible for many, many more disabled than Hep-C (which wouldn't even be debillating until it was very advanced) or most other diseases combined.
What are these "debilitating STD's" people are getting disability for?
HIV, and not everyone that has it would be a sexual deviant, and there would be no way to prove how they got it.
I actually would like to know the stats on this. I work in social services--maybe I can find some.
I can tell you that over the years the people I've worked with who collect SSI payments have covered a diversity of people. Elderly, blind, congenitally mentally or physically disabled, people disabled due to serious, legitimate injuries, etc.
I'm sure some people bring it on themselves with their "lifestyle choices" but then again, some people like to parasail and bungee jump and do other types of dangerous activities. If they get injured to the point of full disability, we could say it's still due to their lifestyle choices.
Does anyone have any statistics on the percentage of people on disability due to lifestyle choices? I couldn't find anything. And given the recent rampant surge of obesity and the fact it is now considered a "disease" I suspect the number of people getting federal assistance for disability will explode in the next decade or so.
I got to thinking today about the people I know for whom disability checks is their only income. Almost all had horrible lifestyles and are not that old.
Couple A: She has been obese her entire life. Poor diet, zero exercise. Late 50s, now 100% disabled because of serious complications from diabetes. Her husband is in his early 50s, also obese, and a smoker, has bad heart/pacemaker and is on 100% disability.
Couple B: She has been obese most of her life. Poor diet, zero exercise...is on 100% disability for bad heart, diabetes, two knee replacements. She is 58. Her husband is 61 and also is considered 100% disabled because he has severe COPD. Fat and a long-time smoker (to his credit he quit about 10 years ago.)
Person A: Obese, smoker, alcoholic, 62 years old. On disability for substance addiction and spinal stenosis.
Person B: Smoker, alcoholic, 55 yo on disability for multiple strokes and now partially blind.
Person C: Late 50s, not obese but smoker, on 100% disability for congestive heart failure and has a pacemaker.
Actually the only other person I know of personally who is on disability is on it because of some horrid genetic snafu for early arthritis...she is 55 and was at one point a competitive body builder and does not smoke or drink but has had several joint replacements and is facing more at 54 years old...I think her case is righteous.
You are just making wild speculations about SSDI without having a shred of factual information. Why don't you look up the cases of who gets SSDI? Why don't you look up rejection rates? Why don't you look up some facts, instead of just making stuff up?
Is that 35 percent based on approval at the first level, or for the entire year? I mean if the rate was that low how do all these law firms make any money representing applicants? Unless the majority of the 65 percent that get turned down do not retain an attorney. I know of one firm in particular that claims a 97 percent approval rate, 40 percent at the first level.
It is the percentages of applicants for the year versus the number of approvals for the year. Interestingly, the number of applications has dropped while the percent approved has also dropped.
There are two reasons that lawfirm stats are so high. First, they aren't going to take you if they don't think you've got a case. Second, they are not telling you the attrition rate. It's 97% of those that see the process all the way through. Many people give up after the first appeal post hearing and probably before that.
Allsup is pretty transparent. Google them and their site should explain what I mean about attrition. I don't know what % represented by an attorney get turned down at the hearing level and then how many continue from there.
It is the percentages of applicants for the year versus the number of approvals for the year. Interestingly, the number of applications has dropped while the percent approved has also dropped.
There are two reasons that lawfirm stats are so high. First, they aren't going to take you if they don't think you've got a case. Second, they are not telling you the attrition rate. It's 97% of those that see the process all the way through. Many people give up after the first appeal post hearing and probably before that.
Allsup is pretty transparent. Google them and their site should explain what I mean about attrition. I don't know what % represented by an attorney get turned down at the hearing level and then how many continue from there.
Actually I have a friend that started the process and Allsup is who he is using. He took an early retirement due to back and knee problems. From what he told me Allsup paid his company for the names of all their early retirees and then solicited them. Sounds like a little like ambulance chasing.
He is currently 60 years old collecting a decent pension but is still eligable to collect SSDI. In fact he had a physical scheduled by SS and then the appointment was cancelled. His case worker told him the cancellation was due to the fact that SS was satisfied with the records from his personal physicians and it could be a sign of a quick approval. He did tell me the other day if he is denied he is not going to appeal and just look for part time work.
HIV, and not everyone that has it would be a sexual deviant, and there would be no way to prove how they got it.
This isn't 1982. The vast majority of people with HIV are not disabled and in fact show no outward signs of the disease. It is very controllable via meds now.
Even if it weren't you really think it would be a step forward for America for people to have to explain their sexual lives to some government panel, let alone be forced to "prove" they weren't one in order to qualify for disability?? Who is it defining "sexual deviant"?
This isn't 1982. The vast majority of people with HIV are not disabled and in fact show no outward signs of the disease. It is very controllable via meds now.
Even if it weren't you really think it would be a step forward for America for people to have to explain their sexual lives to some government panel, let alone be forced to "prove" they weren't one in order to qualify for disability?? Who is it defining "sexual deviant"?
Actually I have a friend that started the process and Allsup is who he is using. He took an early retirement due to back and knee problems. From what he told me Allsup paid his company for the names of all their early retirees and then solicited them. Sounds like a little like ambulance chasing.
He is currently 60 years old collecting a decent pension but is still eligable to collect SSDI. In fact he had a physical scheduled by SS and then the appointment was cancelled. His case worker told him the cancellation was due to the fact that SS was satisfied with the records from his personal physicians and it could be a sign of a quick approval. He did tell me the other day if he is denied he is not going to appeal and just look for part time work.
I don't exactly know what that top part means but how is that not illegal for the employer? Sounds more like someone may be trying to get a spiff from Allsup and made a list and is now backpedaling. I can't think of any company large enough to have a retirement plan and stupid enough to sell their names. If that was all that was needed to get money they could do it to random companies for for now I'm going with "unlikely story".
I recently ended a 5 year friendship with someone who fit this bill. 30-something year old guy, ate like a pig never exercised. Had a stroke back in 2010. Started eating better, walking a bit; lost the weight. Got a girlfriend, starting going out, late night trips to the rib shack...had another stroke in 2012 that left him partially paralyzed. he walks with a very pronounced limp but has almost no use of his left arm.
So he's on disability now and getting food stamps. Using his $$ to buy Viagra and other non-essential bs. Supplements his income by going to garage sales & then selling the crap on Ebay. He brings home more than I do in a month. I reported him to the state.
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