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Old 11-17-2007, 02:47 PM
 
Location: FL/TX Coasts
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Right, let's not mention it. Unemployment in the 4% bracket- lower than the average unemployment rate during the '70s, '80s and '90s. 50 months of job growth. A GDP growing at an average of 2.9%. You're right- the economy shouldn't be mentioned be it make the Democrats uncomfortable!



Yeah, a debt-free governemnt which began when the Republicans won control of Congress in the '94 elections and when bills like the Contract with America and the Welfare Reform bills passed.

Clinton allowed terrorism to flouish during his terms and even had several opportunities to either take Bin Laden into custody or kill him. What a "President!"

this is in response to the last paragraph.
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Old 11-17-2007, 03:58 PM
 
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Clinton allowed terrorism to flouish during his terms and even had several opportunities to either take Bin Laden into custody or kill him. What a "President!"
Perhaps, but then invading a country for 'WMDs' doesn't exactly make for a popular USA. Terrorism is flourishing as we speak, and this is well after actions were taken to win the 'war on terror'
 
Old 11-17-2007, 04:03 PM
 
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Right, let's not mention it. Unemployment in the 4% bracket- lower than the average unemployment rate during the '70s, '80s and '90s.
Actually 4.7% at the moment and rising. The lowest civilian unemployment rate to have existed at any point during the Bush administration is the one that prevailed on the day he was first inaugurated.

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50 months of job growth.
Actually, zero months. Seasonally-adjusted employment levels fell in October of this year, as they had in February, April, July, and August.

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A GDP growing at an average of 2.9%.
Actually closer to 2.55%, assuming you're actually starting in 2001.

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Yeah, a debt-free governemnt which began when the Republicans won control of Congress in the '94 elections and when bills like the Contract with America and the Welfare Reform bills passed.
Please see the following, all of which were made necessary by the fiscal failures of the Presidents in office at the time of their enactment...

Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985
Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Reaffirmation Act of 1987
Budget Enforcement Act of 1990

Please let us know also which party it was that abandoned PAYGO rules in 2002.

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Clinton allowed terrorism to flouish during his terms and even had several opportunities to either take Bin Laden into custody or kill him. What a "President!"
Obviously, your testimony was not taken by The 9/11 Commission, which no doubt explains their having come to such a different conclusion from yours.
 
Old 11-17-2007, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Actually 4.7% at the moment and rising. The lowest civilian unemployment rate to have existed at any point during the Bush administration is the one that prevailed on the day he was first inaugurated.
Again, lower than the average during the '70s, '80s and '90s.

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Actually, zero months. Seasonally-adjusted employment levels fell in October of this year, as they had in February, April, July, and August.
Lol.

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Actually closer to 2.55%, assuming you're actually starting in 2001.
As you said, depending on the starting date. But better than when Bush took office.

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Please see the following, all of which were made necessary by the fiscal failures of the Presidents in office at the time of their enactment...

Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985
Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Reaffirmation Act of 1987
Budget Enforcement Act of 1990

Please let us know also which party it was that abandoned PAYGO rules in 2002.
And what does that have to do with what was passed in the '90s?

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Obviously, your testimony was not taken by The 9/11 Commission, which no doubt explains their having come to such a different conclusion from yours
Obviously, you haven't heard on tape Clinton saying that he did not take Bin Laden into custody because "He had broken no U.S. laws." Which is wrong since he was behind several terrorist bombings when Clinton said that.
The 9/11 commission has flaws and more evidence has surfaced since that report was released.
 
Old 11-17-2007, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Perhaps, but then invading a country for 'WMDs' doesn't exactly make for a popular USA. Terrorism is flourishing as we speak, and this is well after actions were taken to win the 'war on terror'
Maybe you're right. Maybe we should have waited until Saddam had (again) built up WMD and perhaps sold them to terrorists who could have taken them to Europe or the U.S. or wherever. Then all we would be hearing is "Why didn't Bush do something!" He is in a no-win situation.

BTW, banned weapons were found in Iraq.
 
Old 11-17-2007, 04:47 PM
 
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Maybe you're right. Maybe we should have waited until Saddam had (again) built up WMD and perhaps sold them to terrorists who could have taken them to Europe or the U.S. or wherever. Then all we would be hearing is "Why didn't Bush do something!" He is in a no-win situation.

BTW, banned weapons were found in Iraq.
Banned weapons is a horrible reason to go to war. In that case, we should have hit North Korea, Iran...twice, China too. But hey, maybe spending billions on this war is what's good for Americans...don't you feel safer with Saddam gone?

I believe Bush was on the right track with the Taliban in Afghanistan, but Iraq is a hard sell.

Israel did it the best, they struck Iraq's reactor from the air and didn't occupy.
 
Old 11-17-2007, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Israel did it the best, they struck Iraq's reactor from the air and didn't occupy.
Just as they'll do with Iran, if we're lucky.
 
Old 11-17-2007, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Houston, Texas
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Seems to me the voters never put him in office on the first round. The supreme court did because they did not like the outcome of the election.

Since then he illegally invaded countries, lied to everyone, is responsible for more deaths then even religion.

What he did is exactly the same thing as Saddam did. Saddam got hanged, bushy the dictator is still stealing, lieing and cheating the American peons.

Now tell me one more time who the real terrorist is?
 
Old 11-17-2007, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Seems to me the voters never put him in office on the first round. The supreme court did because they did not like the outcome of the election.

Since then he illegally invaded countries, lied to everyone, is responsible for more deaths then even religion.

What he did is exactly the same thing as Saddam did. Saddam got hanged, bushy the dictator is still stealing, lieing and cheating the American peons.

Now tell me one more time who the real terrorist is?
The guy with the box-cutter who hijacked the plane and flew it into the World Trade Tower.

Keep your eye on the ball, sunshine.
 
Old 11-17-2007, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Seems to me the voters never put him in office on the first round. The supreme court did because they did not like the outcome of the election.
The Supreme Court put an end to the ridiculous hand counting and recounting of the ballots. The voters did put Bush in office- he got more electoral votes than Gore.

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Since then he illegally invaded countries, lied to everyone, is responsible for more deaths then even religion.
Not illegal. Congress approved invading Ahghanistan and Iraq. And the 1991 Cease Fire agreement with Iraq gave the U.S. legal authority to resume military action with Iraq if the agreement was broken, which it was.

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Now tell me one more time who the real terrorist is?
Are you serious?
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