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The people who are G. Zimmerman supporters can't see anything from Mr. Martin's perspective. They can't see that Mr. Zimmerman's actions might be alarming or cause fear from Mr. Martin.
Mr. Zimmerman is the brave hero in their minds and Mr. Martin is the big bad guy.
Every action in their minds that Mr. Zimmerman took was in response to the threat that Mr. Martin represented to Mr. Zimmerman. They don't perceive that Mr. Zimmerman's actions could be perceived as threatening or that Mr. Martin had any right or agency to stand his ground(not saying that is what Mr. Martin did).
In their minds, G. Zimmerman had every right to follow Mr. Martin the big bad, because of how Mr. Martin made G. Zimmerman feel.
Mr. Martin was suspicious you see.
Mr. Martin was a potential criminal you see.
Mr. Zimmerman was every man protecting his home from them you see.
Mr. Martin in their tale can't fight back because that means he should be shot. He can't be afraid of Mr. Zimmerman because Mr. Zimmerman is the hero. He can't be concerned that Mr. Zimmerman is going to follow him home where a 12 year old is located and hurt both of them so maybe he doesn't immediately go home until he is sure he lost this stranger following him in his vehicle then on foot.
See if someone viewed things from Mr. Martin's eyes, then Mr. Zimmerman's actions do look threatening. If someone views things through Mr. Martins eyes, then Mr. Martin has a right to self defense and to fight back and that doesn't automatically make him a murderous thug deserving of death.
But alas they don't see things through Mr. Martin's eyes. In their tale, Mr. Martin is the bad guy who is suspicious and dangerous and violent and deserving of being killed if he hits this strange man who was following him and who also has a loaded gun.
It is sick.
The sickness is coming from the people who can't see that Trayvon should have just kept on going home. When you're feet from home and someone is staring at you (according to you), or making you nervous, or scaring you, you go inside and lock the door.
I do see it from Trayvon's viewpoint. I would have hightailed it home. To not see this is what's sick.
The sickness is coming from the people who can't see that Trayvon should have just kept on going home. When you're feet from home and someone is staring at you (according to you), or making you nervous, or scaring you, you go inside and lock the door.
I do see it from Trayvon's viewpoint. I would have hightailed it home. To not see this is what's sick.
Except that maybe he didn't want to lead a potential bad guy to his door.
Hell GZ was worried about giving his address in fear that TM might over hear it.
People don't always follow a logical course when they are rattled.
Folks on this thread are making the same mistake that folks made during the O.J. Simpson case and any number of similar highly publicized trials. There is no inning by inning scores to be kept by one side or the other. The jury will find Zimmerman guilty or innocent based upon the totality of the evidence at the conclusion of the case. Trying to predict what a jury will do based upon opening statements, which are not evidentiary but rather an introduction of what each side thinks the evidence will show is a fools errant, or at best a pay check for "legal experts" sitting in TV studios.
Anyone else think Zimmerman should win the criminal trial but lose teh civil case?
He should win the criminal trial, then be excused from the civil trial on grounds of double jeopardy.
That's not double jeopardy. In fact I'm almost willing to say that's impossible but I'll have to ponder some more
But I agree with the 2nd answer. "Should" isn't up to us. Anyone with respect for the Constitution should go with the 14th. The best we can do is decide what we think based on the media not the evidence.
So you think it is okay to walk around with a loaded gun, chase after someone and provoke fear, and then shoot them dead when the other person reacts out of fear?
Walking is not chasing.
How do you know fear was provoked?
If indeed TM initiated physical force as the evidence suggests, GZ had every right to defend himself using lethal force if he felt he was in danger of great bodily harm or death.
The sickness is coming from the people who can't see that Trayvon should have just kept on going home. When you're feet from home and someone is staring at you (according to you), or making you nervous, or scaring you, you go inside and lock the door.
I do see it from Trayvon's viewpoint. I would have hightailed it home. To not see this is what's sick.
Note really sure this was the case. It's been Proposed this was the case, but no evidence. It could also be GZ started to run after him at the Tee. Even where the body was found is not next to his house.
This was from a witness, and I believe like most other witnesses, some of it was retracted.
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