Ca. lifts ban on SSM. (attorney, activist, abortions, biased)

[jjrose]

Just reported that the 9th circuit just lifted the stay, and will now allow same sex marriage in California.

[T-Rob123]

Awesome!!!

[jjrose]

1st marriage taking place right now.
The two couples involved in the prop 8 case are getting married as I type.

[Harrier]

A sad day for California.

The job of the elected state officials(Governor, Attorney General, etc...) is to execute the state laws.

They broke their oaths when they refused to enforce the state constitution - by thumbing their nose at Prop 8.

SCOTUS's decision paved the way for future elected officials to similarly break the law.

The will of the people has been trampled upon.

A court order contrary to what the voters implemented is not a legitimate basis for public policy.

[jjrose]

Originally Posted by Harrier

A sad day for California.

The job of the elected state officials(Governor, Attorney General) is to execute the state laws.

They broke their oaths when they refused to enforce the state constitution - by thumbing their nose at Prop 8.

SCOTUS's decision paved the way for future elected officials to similarly break the law.

Voters can not vote away the rights of other voters.

It's a good day for freedom.

[Harrier]

Originally Posted by jjrose

Voters can not vote away the rights of other voters.

Correct - and this was not done.

[Sayid Linus]

Good for CA. Now if PA can only get with the program.

[jjrose]

Originally Posted by Harrier

Correct - and this was not done.

Voters voted to deny same sex couples equal rights in marriage, after they already were given those rights.

So, yes they did vote to take away the rights of other citizens.

[MiamiRob]

Originally Posted by Harrier

A sad day for California.

The job of the elected state officials(Governor, Attorney General, etc...) is to execute the state laws.

They broke their oaths when they refused to enforce the state constitution - by thumbing their nose at Prop 8.

SCOTUS's decision paved the way for future elected officials to similarly break the law.

The will of the people has been trampled upon.

A court order contrary to what the voters implemented is not a legitimate basis for public policy.

The Civil Rights of consenting Gay adults to marry is not up for the "will of the people". I guess the American people should have voted on issues like abortions or the right of Women and blacks to vote too?
This is why we have a Constitution!

[Harrier]

Originally Posted by jjrose

Voters voted to deny same sex couples equal rights in marriage, after they already were given those rights.

So, yes they did vote to take away the rights of other citizens.

Wrong - they were never "given those rights".

The California Supreme Court ruled Proposition 22 unconstitutional. It never gave gays the right to marry.

Furthermore - Proposition 8 was already being organized prior to the CSC's ruling. Proposition 8 amended the state constitution to define marriage as a union between a man and a woman - and it passed. The elected state officials refused to defend it and that is how Hollingsworth vs. Perry developed - with the supporters of the initiative defending it, which SCOTUS ruled could not be done.

Californians have stated clearly twice that marriage is a union between a man and a woman. No legislation has ever been signed that legitimizes gay marriage in California. The state policy is based on an activist judges order - a judge who was biased since he was a gay man.

The will of the people has been trampled upon.

The elected state officials may not pick and choose what laws they will defend. They are obligated to uphold the law - and Proposition 8 was not just a state law, it was a constitutional amendment.

The SCOTUS decision set a bad precedent - now elected officials can decide what laws they will defend, and can thumb their noses at the people who they are supposed to serve.

The decision also is a direct attack on California's sovereignty and its initiative process - which has served the state well for 100 years.

It is a shameful day, a slap across the face of democracy, and an affront to the liberty of free people to govern themselves.

The fight is not over - and marriage will be defended by decent people - despite the attacks by the gay army.

"(We) have only yet begun to fight."