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Well, please explain to me why is it that every time someone links a news story of a horrible terrorist type attack committed by devout muslims, liberals quickly go back several centuries to say "look, Christians are just as bad"?
To the extent that happens (and no, it not "every time"), the answer is primarily that Islam is not an existential threat to us, while resurgent fundamentally Christianity actually is.
It is one of the deep dissonances of right-wing Islamophobia that they regularly suggest that the solution to "the Muslim problem" is for us to become more like them. And frankly, such a suggestion is both dangerous and stupid. It is secularism that we defend... not Islam.
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Answer is simple. Liberals hate Christianity and love those who hate America and go out of their way to try to defend Islam.
Blah, blah, blah... such a claim is literally insane. Most American liberals are Christians.
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Since they can't defend the acts committed my muslims, they attack Christianity without offering up any outrage for the attacks committed by muslims in the name of Islam.
There is no defense of religious violence, either Muslim or Christian. Why would you expect a defense? The only thing that can be provided is perspective.
What part of the Syrian rebels does Obama want to arm and train?
I know of what you're trying to allude to, however the words he speaks are meaningless when compared to his actions in supporting Islamic terrorist during and after the "Arab Spring". He's even sending people to help the Muslim Brotherhood deal with protestors in Egypt and provided support to Libya's rebels even though they knew many of the rebels were Al Qaeda terrorist who later went on to attack and execute our nation's ambassador in that same country.
I know of what you're trying to allude to, however the words he speaks are meaningless when compared to his actions in supporting Islamic terrorist during and after the "Arab Spring".
He supported no "Islamic terrorists" during the Arab Spring. He supported self determination and the spread of democracy... pretty much as all administrations have claimed to do, Democratic or Republican.
And guess what? Democracy is messy (just as the previous administration repeatedly claimed when things were not going so well in Iraq and Afghanistan after their liberation).
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He's even sending people to help the Muslim Brotherhood deal with protestors in Egypt and provided support to Libya's rebels even though they knew many of the rebels were Al Qaeda terrorist who later went on to attack and execute our nation's ambassador in that same country.
Oh my gosh. The real universe is complex.
Who knew?
This is what cripples so much conservative opinion. The inability to conceptually handle more than two possibilities at a time.
Wow, for someone with a name like "HistorianDude", you sure don't know much about the history of muslim attacks against this country, Christians, Jews, Hindus, and any other non-Islamic religion. I suggest you start by studying all the terrorist attacks against USA that goes back over 40 years and gradually built up due to the decisions and actions of politicians who think like yourself. Muslim attacks against those who aren't muslim goes back about 1,300 years.
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To the extent that happens (and no, it not "every time"), the answer is primarily that Islam is not an existential threat to us, while resurgent fundamentally Christianity actually is.
It is one of the deep dissonances of right-wing Islamophobia that they regularly suggest that the solution to "the Muslim problem" is for us to become more like them. And frankly, such a suggestion is both dangerous and stupid. It is secularism that we defend... not Islam.
Blah, blah, blah... such a claim is literally insane. Most American liberals are Christians.
There is no defense of religious violence, either Muslim or Christian. Why would you expect a defense? The only thing that can be provided is perspective.
He supported the Muslim Brotherhood (an islamic terrorist organization) taking power in Egypt and provided material support, military training, and military arial support to the Libyan rebels, many of whom were publicly known to be members of Al Qaeda. Obama provided support to islamic terrorist.
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He supported no "Islamic terrorists" during the Arab Spring. He supported self determination and the spread of democracy... pretty much as all administrations have claimed to do, Democratic or Republican.
And guess what? Democracy is messy (just as the previous administration repeatedly claimed when things were not going so well in Iraq and Afghanistan after their liberation).
Oh my gosh. The real universe is complex.
Who knew?
This is what cripples so much conservative opinion. The inability to conceptually handle more than two possibilities at a time.
Wow, for someone with a name like "HistorianDude", you sure don't know much about the history of muslim attacks against this country, Christians, Jews, Hindus, and any other non-Islamic religion.
Blah, blah, blah... I decline to knock down your straw men. I am fully aware of Islamist attacks against our country. They are still no existential threat to us. They are merely the political/religious equivalent of the natural disasters with which we must regularly contend. Defending ourselves against Al Qaeda is the same thing as seismically retrofitting hospitals in California.
They can hurt us, but not as badly as we would hurt ourselves by becoming their mirror image.
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I suggest you start by studying all the terrorist attacks against USA that goes back over 40 years and gradually built up due to the decisions and actions of politicians who think like yourself. Muslim attacks against those who aren't muslim goes back about 1,300 years.
So in about 700 years more they'll catch up to Christianity.
He supported the Muslim Brotherhood (an islamic terrorist organization) taking power in Egypt and provided material support, military training, and military arial support to the Libyan rebels, many of whom were publicly known to be members of Al Qaeda. Obama provided support to islamic terrorist.
No. He didn't. He supported self determination in Egypt. He supported self determination in Libya. And self determination means they get to choose their leadership.
Not us.
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