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Old 07-04-2013, 05:47 AM
 
Location: N 30° W 89°
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Originally Posted by MrSykes View Post
Sure, because all the evidence we have seen so far points to Trayvon initiating a brutal attack unprovoked.
Yes, he did.
Poor little trayvon should have kept his hands to himself.

 
Old 07-04-2013, 05:49 AM
 
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Originally Posted by ellemint View Post
Do you really think that Trayvon was intending to kill Zimmerman, simply for following him?

Like to fight? Where's the proof of that? Trayvon had absolutely no history of violent crime, or any history of beating people up, or anything like that. He had no school suspensions for fighting. He's was a college-bound student preparing for the SATs and checking out colleges. The view you have of him is Zimmerman's view, not reality.
All you know about tm's suspensions is what was leaked. I don't know there's more to it, but you don't know there isn't.

He missed more than 50 days of school due to suspensions and absences.

No, I'm not glad he died or was destined to be a violent criminal. Pure speculation --- something happened in summer 2011 to cause a troubled spell that he may or may not have come out of eventually.

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Old 07-04-2013, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Houston
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There is no evidence I have seen so far to suggest that Trayvon wasn't attempting to get home before Zimmerman intercepted and accosted him.


Ya ain't looking too hard.
 
Old 07-04-2013, 05:53 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX USA
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Skipping school and pot use are not indicators of a future criminal. Listening to rap music doesn't make him a Grape Street Crip--it makes him a normal, if somewhat unruly, teenager.

That's the key word there btw. TEENAGER. Not a child, but certainly not an adult. A teen.

You're right, they are not signs of a future criminal, they are signs of a current criminal.
 
Old 07-04-2013, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Houston
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The Martin/Zimmerman timeline [Reader Post] | Flopping Aces

Notice that there were more than 90 seconds where Martin was completely out of sight and had plenty of time to get home.
 
Old 07-04-2013, 05:57 AM
 
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Again, if he was old enough, and we know he was, to join the military, he is not considered a child any longer. Time to man up. No more excuses.
Don't you still need parental consent to join the military at age 17 ? So even using your nonsensical standard for adult, he wasn't.
 
Old 07-04-2013, 06:06 AM
 
Location: N 30° W 89°
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Don't you still need parental consent to join the military at age 17 ? So even using your nonsensical standard for adult, he wasn't.
We aren't talking about joining the military..We're talking about a murder trial.


People as young as 14 are/have been tried as adults. 17 year olds get tried as adults all the time...depending on the severity of the crime.
 
Old 07-04-2013, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Bayou City
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Yes, he did.
Poor little trayvon should have kept his hands to himself.
Not if he was defending himself.
 
Old 07-04-2013, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Bayou City
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The Martin/Zimmerman timeline [Reader Post] | Flopping Aces

Notice that there were more than 90 seconds where Martin was completely out of sight and had plenty of time to get home.
Not if he had been intercepted by Zimmerman.
 
Old 07-04-2013, 06:16 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Gunther Rall View Post
We aren't talking about joining the military..We're talking about a murder trial.


People as young as 14 are/have been tried as adults. 17 year olds get tried as adults all the time...depending on the severity of the crime.
Did you see the post I responded to ?

child, adult mean different things for different purposes under Law. Neither word is sensible to apply to tm in normal, everyday speech.
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