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Old 07-03-2013, 08:32 AM
 
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I gotta cut back on the weed. I was right the first time. Employers of fewer than 50 peeps do not need to provide insurance under O-care. The ones with more than 50 got another year to get their act together. Should be interesting.
LOL, I had to laugh at the weed comment. I just heard this on NPR this morning & I was like, "Did I hear it wrong? I could swear they said companies with 50+ employees", lol. Yes, companies with 50+ employees have until 2015 to provide coverage or whatever they have to do & the fines for not having coverage will not go into effect until 2015 as well.
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Old 07-03-2013, 08:34 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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In particular I have no interest in buying the high deductable plan my employer offers. It is such a bad plan that I heard only two people in our office currently buys it. My mind is made up that even if it is against the law for me not to have health insurance I will not buy this no matter what!

If it's a relatively small fine not to be insured I will pay it. If it's a hefty fine I would rather go to jail than to pay it. I just hope they put me in a minimum security prison as I hate violent criminals with a passion and don't want to be anywhere near them.


Will the "exchange" allow me to buy a plan I like even if my employer offers me health insurance. If so I would consider buying it. If it's too expensive though just lock me up. At least I would get three square meals and FINALLY not have to buy health insurance under the Obamacare law.
Then by all means... Go to prison! No skin off my nose.
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Old 07-03-2013, 08:36 AM
 
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You are not gonna go to jail. Plus, even if you did, you would receive better health care than you do now.
Just pay the fee, probably cheaper than tickets to a basketball game.

No need to do jail time.
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Old 07-03-2013, 08:37 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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That sounds good to me. I pay for my own health insurance. I do not want to pay for your injuries and/or illnesses.

I always hoped that they would create a national registry for people who knowingly and deliberately decline health insurance. This database should be accessible by all health care provider in assessing whether they should treat such an individual or not.

People relying on tax payer handouts when they are financially capable of paying for their own health insurance or health care costs are just a bunch of leeches.
So you would sanction federally mandated murder and fully endorse the removal of personal choice or responsibility from the individual?

Good obamabot.
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Old 07-03-2013, 10:35 AM
 
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In particular I have no interest in buying the high deductable plan my employer offers. It is such a bad plan that I heard only two people in our office currently buys it. My mind is made up that even if it is against the law for me not to have health insurance I will not buy this no matter what!

If it's a relatively small fine not to be insured I will pay it. If it's a hefty fine I would rather go to jail than to pay it. I just hope they put me in a minimum security prison as I hate violent criminals with a passion and don't want to be anywhere near them.


Will the "exchange" allow me to buy a plan I like even if my employer offers me health insurance. If so I would consider buying it. If it's too expensive though just lock me up. At least I would get three square meals and FINALLY not have to buy health insurance under the Obamacare law.
Chill with the drama...

If it's one thing I know, it's this: if you're threatened with jail time, you're gonna run and buy that insurance so fast that Usain Bolt wouldn't be able to catch you. And if you can't come up with the money, you'd rob a bank to get it if you even had the potential of sniffing the inside of a jail.

Please...you wouldn't even dream of going to jail. GTHOH with that.
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Old 07-03-2013, 10:46 AM
 
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In particular I have no interest in buying the high deductable plan my employer offers. It is such a bad plan that I heard only two people in our office currently buys it. My mind is made up that even if it is against the law for me not to have health insurance I will not buy this no matter what!

If it's a relatively small fine not to be insured I will pay it. If it's a hefty fine I would rather go to jail than to pay it. I just hope they put me in a minimum security prison as I hate violent criminals with a passion and don't want to be anywhere near them.


Will the "exchange" allow me to buy a plan I like even if my employer offers me health insurance. If so I would consider buying it. If it's too expensive though just lock me up. At least I would get three square meals and FINALLY not have to buy health insurance under the Obamacare law.
The whole purpose of Obamacare is affordability by having everyone become part of the plan. If that plan is unaffordable, it'll be ancient history in 2014 when Obamacare kicks in.
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Old 07-03-2013, 10:48 AM
 
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I would settle with doctors and hospitals being prohibited from treating you unless you can cover the cost of your own care and not have your cost passed on to me.

Deal?
I will take that deal if you stop the federal government from preventing insurance from being sold across state lines, and if you stop the federal government from restricting the number of residency spots in hospitals.

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The whole purpose of Obamacare is affordability by having everyone become part of the plan. If that plan is unaffordable, it'll be ancient history in 2014 when Obamacare kicks in.
The purpose of Obamacare was to give coverage to everyone, it was never for it to be affordable. It is fairly common knowledge that Obamacare will increase the net cost of health care in this country.
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Old 07-03-2013, 10:49 AM
 
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Chill with the drama...

If it's one thing I know, it's this: if you're threatened with jail time, you're gonna run and buy that insurance so fast that Usain Bolt wouldn't be able to catch you. And if you can't come up with the money, you'd rob a bank to get it if you even had the potential of sniffing the inside of a jail.

Please...you wouldn't even dream of going to jail. GTHOH with that.
So you don't think these guys are true rebels that would make Che look like a boot licker??

These guys are down for the cause man. Jail time is nothing.
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Old 07-03-2013, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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The whole purpose of Obamacare is affordability by having everyone become part of the plan. If that plan is unaffordable, it'll be ancient history in 2014 when Obamacare kicks in.
Obama seems to be accepting the fact that there is severe resistance and is not saying that the "requirement" for employers of 50 or more to have insurance in place is now pushed back to at least 2015
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:03 PM
 
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So you don't think these guys are true rebels that would make Che look like a boot licker??

These guys are down for the cause man. Jail time is nothing.
Hell naw! They'd be bartering his rear end in exchange for cigs inside of five minutes.
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