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Old 07-04-2013, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
US law says when there's a coup then US Funding must be cut off.
What happened yesterday was a military coup

Then again, if we don't call it a coup then it really didn't happen..right ?
The law is pretty clear but we don't always follow our own laws do we ?

Senator Patrick Leahy: ‘Our law is clear,’ U.S. must cut off aid to Egypt | The Raw Story
The Democratic senator cited the Fiscal Year 2012 State Department And Foreign Operations Appropriations Act in particular. The law prohibits the United States from sending funds to the government of a country whose democratically-elected leader has been deposed by the military.
It will be interesting to see how they get around that one.
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Old 07-04-2013, 06:54 AM
 
Location: World
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
US law says when there's a coup then US Funding must be cut off.
What happened yesterday was a military coup

Then again, if we don't call it a coup then it really didn't happen..right ?
The law is pretty clear but we don't always follow our own laws do we ?

Senator Patrick Leahy: ‘Our law is clear,’ U.S. must cut off aid to Egypt | The Raw Story
The Democratic senator cited the Fiscal Year 2012 State Department And Foreign Operations Appropriations Act in particular. The law prohibits the United States from sending funds to the government of a country whose democratically-elected leader has been deposed by the military.
In 1973 in Chile, democratically elected government of Allende was overthrown by US backed Military Dictator Pinochet. Pinochet was funded by US.
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Old 07-04-2013, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
US law says when there's a coup then US Funding must be cut off.
What happened yesterday was a military coup

Then again, if we don't call it a coup then it really didn't happen..right ?
The law is pretty clear but we don't always follow our own laws do we ?

Senator Patrick Leahy: ‘Our law is clear,’ U.S. must cut off aid to Egypt | The Raw Story
The Democratic senator cited the Fiscal Year 2012 State Department And Foreign Operations Appropriations Act in particular. The law prohibits the United States from sending funds to the government of a country whose democratically-elected leader has been deposed by the military.
IMO there is a difference between being a democratically-elected President and being an undemocratic President in creating/setting policy that goes completely against democracy which impacts the country and the people, which was the case with Morsi.
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Old 07-04-2013, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
US law says when there's a coup then US Funding must be cut off.
What happened yesterday was a military coup

Then again, if we don't call it a coup then it really didn't happen..right ?
The law is pretty clear but we don't always follow our own laws do we ?

Senator Patrick Leahy: ‘Our law is clear,’ U.S. must cut off aid to Egypt | The Raw Story
The Democratic senator cited the Fiscal Year 2012 State Department And Foreign Operations Appropriations Act in particular. The law prohibits the United States from sending funds to the government of a country whose democratically-elected leader has been deposed by the military.
It was a coup but they indicated they will continue with another democratic process, I guess until they get it right. The change had resounding support of the people but not so much with the Islamists. I assume they will have another election and doubt if the muslim brotherhood candidate will do so well. Actually so far, so good, very little bloodshed hope it stays that way.
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Old 07-04-2013, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Texas
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We have solid reasons to do what we can to ensure a stable Egypt. Suez Canal, Trade, Israel .... etc. It is very short sighted to think we can just ignore what goes on there.
Hows our foreign policy in the Middle East been working out the last 40 years? Or is 40 years too short sighted?
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Old 07-04-2013, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Texas
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In 1973 in Chile, democratically elected government of Allende was overthrown by US backed Military Dictator Pinochet. Pinochet was funded by US.
Don't forget 1953 Iran. Fund the one you're with.
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Old 07-04-2013, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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It was a coup but they indicated they will continue with another democratic process, I guess until they get it right. The change had resounding support of the people but not so much with the Islamists. I assume they will have another election and doubt if the muslim brotherhood candidate will do so well. Actually so far, so good, very little bloodshed hope it stays that way.
I heard someone use the term "democratic coup".

Egypt never lived under democracy. This is all new to them. Democracy is in it's infancy right now and it's going to take years to get it right.

It's like learning to ride a bike with training wheels and as you go along you take one training wheel off, then another, then you have to learn to balance the bike which seems to go in a direction of its own at times and eventually you learn how to control it.
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Old 07-04-2013, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I heard someone use the term "democratic coup".

Egypt never lived under democracy. This is all new to them. Democracy is in it's infancy right now and it's going to take years to get it right.

It's like learning to ride a bike with training wheels and as you go along you take one training wheel off, then another, then you have to learn to balance the bike which seems to go in a direction of its own at times and eventually you learn how to control it.
The military deposed the elected leader of the country.
That's a coup no matter how you try to color it.

You are trying to compare Egypt to US style politics.
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Old 07-04-2013, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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The military deposed the elected leader of the country.
That's a coup no matter how you try to color it.
A lot of new democracies fail at their first attempt at government. The United States of America for just one example.
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Old 07-04-2013, 07:35 AM
 
Location: World
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Hows our foreign policy in the Middle East been working out the last 40 years? Or is 40 years too short sighted?
Our foreign policy is dictated by financial gains in Oil Industry ever since Oil was discovered in Saudi arabia and surrounding countries in 1930s. So it is like 80 years now.
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