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Old 07-10-2013, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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In 1933 a group of liberals arose that came to dominate Europe until they were deposed by men of good. They came to be known as Nazis. If you study them very carefully you will learn this is a phenomenon that remains with us today. It imposes the same tenets of supposed compassion, defense of the "little" man, elevation of the party over the individual. In that day the choice for extermination became the Jew as the root of all evil. Today it is the Christian.
We know who you are and we will take you off the party teet, we will depose you. This "trial" is all about thos same factions, a different era is all. They believe in their heart of hearts they are superior. They align behind the common allegiances of we don't work, you work for us, we don't serve, you serve us. You do not have to look deeply into the hearts of the two factions posting here to see the similarities. "Give them their bread and the circus to keep them happy. Give them their dope and the circus, even happier! Play on the sympathies of the simple minded they will follow you anywhere.

Who today could be insulted by the N word. It has nothing to do with color. times have changed. We are all Obamas Ns now

This post is so off-topic that it isn't even in this universe. Not only that, it's a ridiculously uninformed rendition of "history."

 
Old 07-10-2013, 09:05 PM
 
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You have any evidence otherwise?
Well the defense witnesses pretty much confirm that he is a wimp.
 
Old 07-10-2013, 09:07 PM
 
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Nope. This was after they hired Ryan Julison ... and I believe most of it is less than truthful.

Why? For starters even the family confirmed later that his last suspension was due to marijuana residue in a baggie.
So she didn't know that. Big deal. Her point was that he was a good kid, who got decent grades, and not a thug.

You really think all these people are lying?: his mother, his brother, his school teachers, his uncle, the principal of his school, his school-mates, the person who submitted his grades to O'Mara? They're all lying? That, I don't believe.

You guys are so determined to make Trayvon out as a thug, that you quote far-right websites that post erroneous information, you disparage the future he would have had with no basis in fact, you assume you know his grades when you don't, and when I provide links to facts in more reasonable, reputable sources, like the Orlando Sentinel and NYtimes you disregard it as "less than truthful." I give up.

The only thing Trayvon detractors say that is true is that he has no future. You're right about that.
 
Old 07-10-2013, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Zimmerman would have taken a beating...He would not have died. I doubt very much that Martin who is portrayed as being semi-smart would have bashed out his brains...

The gun made the whole altercation go south. What would have been a common street fight with a faster younger kid punching out an out of shape fat older guy would have ended with an assault charge against Martin - And who knows...maybe getting charged with assault would have been a positive turning point in Martin's life?

Zimmerman was "patrolling" with confidence...false confidence - the kind that a gun ensures. If Zimmerman was not armed he would have called 911...and stood down...it was that damned gun that gave the fat little coward the confidence to advance and continue to follow....I say this is a good example of proving wrong that "guns don't kill people - people kill people" In this case the gun killed Martin...Zimmerman was merely holding it like an idiot.
And you base this on what? A Visionquest or something? Many people have been killed and crippled from continuing blows to the face and head. What proof, or even evidence, do you have that this would NOT have happened? We already know that Z was screaming for help for well over a minute in the 911 call. It's pretty obvious that M didn't just take one sucker punch and walk away. Witnesses heard the attack and saw Martin pummeling Zimmerman. So, you know he would just have "beat" him eh? Just what says that a person has to lay there and take a beating, at the mercy of the assailant as to when he might finally decide to stop?

Here's a pretty simple rule to live by....don't go around beating strangers. Seems pretty obvious, doesn't it?
 
Old 07-10-2013, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Originally Posted by Bubba juneau View Post
In 1933 a group of liberals arose that came to dominate Europe until they were deposed by men of good. They came to be known as Nazis. If you study them very carefully you will learn this is a phenomenon that remains with us today. It imposes the same tenets of supposed compassion, defense of the "little" man, elevation of the party over the individual. In that day the choice for extermination became the Jew as the root of all evil. Today it is the Christian.
We know who you are and we will take you off the party teet, we will depose you. This "trial" is all about thos same factions, a different era is all. They believe in their heart of hearts they are superior. They align behind the common allegiances of we don't work, you work for us, we don't serve, you serve us. You do not have to look deeply into the hearts of the two factions posting here to see the similarities. "Give them their bread and the circus to keep them happy. Give them their dope and the circus, even happier! Play on the sympathies of the simple minded they will follow you anywhere.

Who today could be insulted by the N word. It has nothing to do with color. times have changed. We are all Obamas Ns now
Yes - give them their measure of wine and bread...set them down at the games...give them a hero- give them an enemy...stir their emotions and all is under good control......Imagine a President who is supposedly black who was elected not through logic but emotion...who intentionally would spark possible race riots with the highly inflamed statement - IF I HAD A SON..HE WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE TRAYVON.

Totally insane...and no one has noticed that lunatics are in control?
 
Old 07-10-2013, 09:10 PM
 
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Here is an adult killed by a 17 year old: Teen Charged With Homicide After Death Of Soccer Referee In Utah : The Two-Way : NPR

So how does anyone here know if Zimmerman would have gotten killed or not? How would Zimmerman know at that time?
 
Old 07-10-2013, 09:10 PM
 
Location: DFW
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So she didn't know that. Big deal. Her point was that he was a good kid, who got decent grades, and not a thug.
You really think good kids are suspended from school 3 times within 3-4 months ?

He may have been good at one time but he was turning into a delinquent as he got older.
 
Old 07-10-2013, 09:13 PM
 
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Zimmerman would have taken a beating...He would not have died. I doubt very much that Martin who is portrayed as being semi-smart would have bashed out his brains...

The gun made the whole altercation go south. .
Do you know haw many people have died while taking a beating. You were not there, you don't know if the head beating would have continued and for how long. Your head doesn't have to hit cement very many times before you get a concussion or end up never being able to speak again.
We don't know for sure, but possibly, the gun saved his own life, just as firearms save lives regularly in this country.
 
Old 07-10-2013, 09:13 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Oleg Bach View Post
Yes - give them their measure of wine and bread...set them down at the games...give them a hero- give them an enemy...stir their emotions and all is under good control......Imagine a President who is supposedly black who was elected not through logic but emotion...who intentionally would spark possible race riots with the highly inflamed statement - IF I HAD A SON..HE WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE TRAYVON.

Totally insane...and no one has noticed that lunatics are in control?
if I had a son.... is not an inflamed statement.
 
Old 07-10-2013, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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Originally Posted by Oleg Bach View Post
Yes - give them their measure of wine and bread...set them down at the games...give them a hero- give them an enemy...stir their emotions and all is under good control......Imagine a President who is supposedly black who was elected not through logic but emotion...who intentionally would spark possible race riots with the highly inflamed statement - IF I HAD A SON..HE WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE TRAYVON.

Totally insane...and no one has noticed that lunatics are in control?

What does this post have to do with the trial? Nothing. Why is it here?
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