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Old 07-10-2013, 04:24 PM
 
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So you have no answer?
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:24 PM
 
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Doctors' salaries are the tip of the iceberg. Reduce those, and everything else will follow. Nurses salaries are also ridiculously inflated. But go into any practice today and watch the billing racket in action. It's not medicine they're practicing, it's insurance fraud.

Higher Ed (particularly for medical school) is also engaged in racketeering.
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Maybe Iceland wants to attack us and take all our snow.
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:24 PM
 
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Yowza! My niece graduated from McGill medical school two years ago and her entire tuition was about $26,500.
I know, it's insane! Grants and scholarships help alot, but there isn't a way to predict how much you will get.
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:27 PM
 
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Doctors' salaries are the tip of the iceberg. Reduce those, and everything else will follow. Nurses salaries are also ridiculously inflated. But go into any practice today and watch the billing racket in action. It's not medicine they're practicing, it's insurance fraud.

Higher Ed (particularly for medical school) is also engaged in racketeering.
Salaries are dictated by the market. An OBGYN might make $275K, but then have to spend $100K or more in malpractice premiums.
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:29 PM
 
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Doctors' salaries are the tip of the iceberg. Reduce those, and everything else will follow. Nurses salaries are also ridiculously inflated. But go into any practice today and watch the billing racket in action. It's not medicine they're practicing, it's insurance fraud.

Higher Ed (particularly for medical school) is also engaged in racketeering.
Has nothing to do with salaries.

Look at administration, billing costs, the cost of medical goods, etc. That's where the problems are.

Doctor in a city where I have a house recently stopped accepting insurance, cut his rates 50%, you can bill your insurance yourself.
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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because United States indirectly subsidizes the world's healthcare by financing all the medical research?
We pay for these countries defense which frees up their money for other things like healthcare.

If Western Europe funded their own Armies like they should they couldn't afford nationalized healthcare either.
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:34 PM
 
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We pay for these countries defense which frees up their money for other things like healthcare.

If Western Europe funded their own Armies like they should they couldn't afford nationalized healthcare either.
There is nobody to be paying for their defense from.

If we weren't always putting our hands in other peoples salad bowls, we'd be the same way.

Just another excuse.
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:39 PM
 
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Healthcare has been on the table since it was first proposed in the early 70's within the Nixon Admin. Heck, even the conservative Heritage Foundation once pitched a national healthcare system.

Medicare works reasonably well, sans the Part D thingy.

Younger people could be phased in over time. People would continue to be encouraged to obtain their own supplemental policies to cover what Medicare does not. Several nations operate this way.

Of course it would be necessary to increase taxes to fund it. That increase would in theory be offset with significant reductions in primary healthcare insurance. I know too many families who are paying $20-25K out of pocket for individual policies because they are self-employed and do not have employer sponsored group policies or subsidies.
No ;Medicare is in funding crisis even worse than SS. Then of course one has to remember just like in military security provided to much of the western world that US medical and drug research provides 70% of the research in the world. The fact is just looking at the committee markup I the senate in scoring the new healthcare law ;no one really wanted to towards funding it. But even then much of it will be thru Medicaid already existing program to cover a large number. Then other will be subsidized from other funding such as pre-existing now in effect by 500 Billion in ten years from Medicare .In 2012 a halt to that was caused by a funding shortage for the year.They had trouble coming up with funding for this healthcare bill anss till a lot depends on savings projected in the bill on scoring> if they do not come true more shortage I funding.
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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We pay for these countries defense which frees up their money for other things like healthcare.

If Western Europe funded their own Armies like they should they couldn't afford nationalized healthcare either.
You pay for our defense? How much cash have you sunk into the Canadian military?
Surely, if this were true, you'd find something on the google. I'll wait.
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