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Old 07-11-2013, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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You move to where you can afford. I wish I could live closer to work, though to be 8 miles closer would be almost 3 times as expensive for the same house/rent, I'm waiting for some extra money from the kind liberals on this board to help me live where I want even though I cannot afford it.
You aren't familiar with the NY metro area, are you? Any decent place outside NY that you might consider living in is far more than 8 miles away. Try 35-50 miles (or more). Total living expenses (mortgage, insurance and TAXES plus commutes) in those places will cost more than $3000 a month. A lot more.
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:01 PM
 
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Er, I wasn't mocking urbanlife: I was mocking NVplumber
Because urbanlife is right: crime is NOT rampant in NYC.
I agree..it definitely isn't

Crime is hard to pull off in a police state.
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:03 PM
 
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There are lots of towns with quaint old architecture. People come to NYC because it's a hub of business, entertainment, culture, etc.. The architecture is secondary. And, to be blunt, the quaint old neighborhoods are getting in the way. The LES, East Village, Hells Kitchen, and Harlem (both East and West), should be upzoned, fully removed for any landmarking and rent regulation, and basically declared real estate free fire zones. I'd also get rid of all real estate tax abatements in Manhattan.

The number of housing units in these areas would at least double, and the new residents paying income tax, and the increase in property tax revenue, would proved plenty of money to fund infrastructure expansion.

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Yeah, that is also why we have beautiful old neighborhoods throughout the city rather than apartment towers and parking lots. If everyone that wanted to tear down every old structure in the city to build an apartment building and a parking lot, no one would be moving to NYC because it would be like every other city in the country.
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:03 PM
 
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I agree..it definitely isn't

Crime is hard to pull off in a police state.
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:05 PM
 
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New York City Red Light Cameras Map

No "CD facts here" just real ones... we can go into more... or you can just drown in your severely ineffective sarcasm..

Come on, let's talk FACTS

Zoom OUT to get a much greater EMPHASIS (on facts, of course)

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Old 07-11-2013, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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There are lots of towns with quaint old architecture. People come to NYC because it's a hub of business, entertainment, culture, etc.. The architecture is secondary. And, to be blunt, the quaint old neighborhoods are getting in the way. The LES, East Village, Hells Kitchen, and Harlem (both East and West), should be upzoned, fully removed for any landmarking and rent regulation, and basically declared real estate free fire zones. I'd also get rid of all real estate tax abatements in Manhattan.

The number of housing units in these areas would at least double, and the new residents paying income tax, and the increase in property tax revenue, would proved plenty of money to fund infrastructure expansion.
Well thankfully the people who live here disagree with you. But just in case you think the city isn't still building up, you should learn about the Hudson Yards and the rezoning of Midtown East. There is plenty of big buildings coming on line in NYC, the city doesn't need to knock down every single building in the city to build bigger and newer....especially when many of those older buildings you want to see torn down are already fetching extremely high rents. A building owner doesn't have to spend anything building a new building if their current building already brings in top dollar.
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Yeah, that is also why we have beautiful old neighborhoods throughout the city rather than apartment towers and parking lots. If everyone that wanted to tear down every old structure in the city to build an apartment building and a parking lot, no one would be moving to NYC because it would be like every other city in the country.
Lol you do realize that when the character you love so much was built originally there was minimal zoning laws?
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:07 PM
 
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There are lots of towns with quaint old architecture. People come to NYC because it's a hub of business, entertainment, culture, etc.. The architecture is secondary. And, to be blunt, the quaint old neighborhoods are getting in the way. The LES, East Village, Hells Kitchen, and Harlem (both East and West), should be upzoned, fully removed for any landmarking and rent regulation, and basically declared real estate free fire zones. I'd also get rid of all real estate tax abatements in Manhattan.
Oh yeah, let get rid of those "ugly" brownstones





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Old 07-11-2013, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Lol you do realize that when the character you love so much was built originally there was minimal zoning laws?
You mean back when there was nothing here? Sure, there was a lot of expansive building during that time. I work in an area that once was farmlands and is now all brownstones.
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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There are lots of towns with quaint old architecture. People come to NYC because it's a hub of business, entertainment, culture, etc.. The architecture is secondary. And, to be blunt, the quaint old neighborhoods are getting in the way. The LES, East Village, Hells Kitchen, and Harlem (both East and West), should be upzoned, fully removed for any landmarking and rent regulation, and basically declared real estate free fire zones. I'd also get rid of all real estate tax abatements in Manhattan.

The number of housing units in these areas would at least double, and the new residents paying income tax, and the increase in property tax revenue, would proved plenty of money to fund infrastructure expansion.
The only nabe worth preserving in Manhattan maybe the West Village. The East Village/LES are ex-slums. The only people who want them preserved are folks like Urban who want all the coolness of a gritty city without the bothersome crime, poor folks etc.
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