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Old 07-11-2013, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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An interesting development in South Carolina. A defendant in a murder trial is claiming "immunity from prosecution" under South Carolina's "stand your ground law," asserting that his murder of the man who he was robbing was self defense.

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SC Supreme Court stops murder trial, orders hearing on ‘Stand Your Ground’ defense

COLUMBIA, SC — An armed intruder is making a “Stand Your Ground” argument in a murder trial, saying he shouldn’t be prosecuted for shooting and killing the man whose home he broke into because it looked as though the man was about to shoot him first.

The state’s 2006 “Stand Your Ground” law effectively allows people to claim “immunity from prosecution” when they have used deadly force to deal with and even kill people in various situations if they believed they were being threatened by them.
The law of unintended consequences strikes again.
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:06 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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An interesting development in South Carolina. A defendant in a murder trial is claiming "immunity from prosecution" under South Carolina's "stand your ground law," asserting that his murder of the man who he was robbing was self defense.

The law of unintended consequences strikes again.
Interesting, though I can't imagine SCOTUS buying it.
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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An interesting development in South Carolina. A defendant in a murder trial is claiming "immunity from prosecution" under South Carolina's "stand your ground law," asserting that his murder of the man who he was robbing was self defense.

The law of unintended consequences strikes again.
Lol did you read the article. The issue is not the case but the procedure.
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Lol did you read the article. The issue is not the case but the procedure.
How then could it not be about both?

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Old 07-11-2013, 02:48 PM
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Location: Florida
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Just goes to show what happens when you let rabidly brutalistic gun-nuts write laws. "Stand your ground" is bad law, subjectively, but providing for "immunity from prosecution", instead of establishing it as a defense during prosecution, is just plain objective idiocy.
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:49 PM
 
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Just goes to show what happens when you let rabidly brutalistic gun-nuts write laws. "Stand your ground" is bad law, subjectively, but providing for "immunity from prosecution", instead of establishing it as a defense during prosecution, is just plain objective idiocy.
You can use SYG without having to use a gun.
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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And the moral of the story is....

If someone is breaking into your home shoot to kill, not wound and make sure you get them first.
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:57 PM
 
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Just goes to show what happens when you let rabidly brutalistic gun-nuts write laws. "Stand your ground" is bad law, subjectively, but providing for "immunity from prosecution", instead of establishing it as a defense during prosecution, is just plain objective idiocy.
SYG laws have nothing to do with firearms specifically. A person can use anything available to them to defend themselves and claim SYG. A knife, a vehicle, a piece of pipe, whatever...
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:58 PM
 
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An interesting development in South Carolina. A defendant in a murder trial is claiming "immunity from prosecution" under South Carolina's "stand your ground law," asserting that his murder of the man who he was robbing was self defense.

The law of unintended consequences strikes again.
What is it about the word "your" that educated people have trouble comprehending?

As in Stand YOUR Ground.

As in Stand YOUR GROUND - NOT, HIS GROUND.

Maybe just another good example of failure of the English Language.

Ahh! I remember those olden days of your.

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Old 07-11-2013, 11:22 PM
 
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Just goes to show what happens when you let rabidly brutalistic gun-nuts write laws. "Stand your ground" is bad law, subjectively, but providing for "immunity from prosecution", instead of establishing it as a defense during prosecution, is just plain objective idiocy.
Stand Your Ground replace the Jim Crow era "Run and Hide" law, which was designed to allow the law to hang a lynch mob victim who fought back. The Guilty Until Proven Innocent provision of "establishing it as a defense during prosecution" is Facist. Explain why a person who defends himself should have to prove his innocence, but a person who commits an outright, blatant, cold blooded murder is presumed innocent until proven guilty?
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