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I have three boys, ages 19, 24, and 26. Their "take away" from this is "Don't walk to the store wearing a hoodie, or you may get stalked because someone doesn't like the way you look." What am I supposed to tell them - run? Call 9-1-1? Whatever you do, don't confront the aggressor? Run or hide as if you are guilty, or you may get shot? Guilty of what - wearing a hoodie? Having a dark skin tone? Being young?
Sad times.
how about telling them not to attack the guy following you? don't beat his head into the concrete? there are such things as plain clothes policemen, off duty police, security guards, neighborhood watches?
This was an interesting case to me primarily because I stayed away from the news and talking heads before and during the trial. I made up my mind solely based on the presentation of the evidence at trial, as many of you know. I must say that when the prosecution rested, I did not believe Zimmerman was guilty of murder 2. Manslaughter - I was not sure on and am still not 100% sure which way I would have voted if I were on the jury.
However, I finally watched the news programs this morning. Um - wow! I guess I can see why some people were so passionate about this trial because some news stations are really ramping up the emotions (AND using absolutely incorrect information I might add). To me, this is the greatest tragedy of all. The media has led to further polarization on this trial and race relations in this country. It's shameful what the media is allowed to do and get away with in this country.
Martin's family is heartbroken, as would anyone's be. Of course they do not want to believe that their own son had anything to do with his own death. However, it's the media's abuse of their grief that is so disgusting.
What of T.M.'s sordid past? Wouldn't your theory also state that T.M. may have met his justice?
The bottom line in this is two people collided that night, both made mistakes in their past as well as that night and it cost one of 'em their life.
What this does point out is it's completely insane to give a damn about anyone other than your family or immediate surroundings. Neighbors? On their own, too bad. If a perceived threat passes your sphere of existence close the door and let it go, let "the other guy' deal with it.
TM did NOT have a "sordid" past. What "justice" is there in killing a 17 year old because someone became suspicious of him simply because he was walking in the rain wearing a hoodie?
you can defend yourself but you can't pull out a gun and blow the guy away. Especially considering you are the one that followed him and confronted him in the first place. You're not allowed to provoke a fight and then when you are losing that fight, pull out a gun and then claim self defense.
this is pretty much common sense.
I guess you didn't see the trial, the army captain/JAG lawyer testified otherwise. While the victim has the right to self defense the aggressor can in fact regain the right to self defense. When TM was on top of GZ he wasn't defending himself anymore. When the neighbors came out and told him to stop fighting he chose not to. Whenever you defend yourself you can only use force that is necessary and reasonable to defend yourself, but if you go beyond that you can become the aggressor. I believe the aspect was the imperfect self defense testimony that the JAG lawyer gave.
TRANSLATION: Be afraid, be very afraid, because you never know who is carrying a gun nor do you know whether or not a person carrying a gun has decided they don't like your looks and then will use that gun to kill you. "Behave".....your word for FEAR. Again, the lesson for all of us is to be afraid, very, very afraid when out in public.
No, just don't confront anyone assuming you can take 'em on and win. You may get a .30 cent surprise.
I have three boys, ages 19, 24, and 26. Their "take away" from this is "Don't walk to the store wearing a hoodie, or you may get stalked because someone doesn't like the way you look." What am I supposed to tell them - run? Call 9-1-1? Whatever you do, don't confront the aggressor? Run or hide as if you are guilty, or you may get shot? Guilty of what - wearing a hoodie? Having a dark skin tone? Being young?
Sad times.
This case doesn't change the advise we give our children when threatened. We have always told our children, to seek safety if they are threatened. It would be a risk to escalate a perceived threat.
"I guess I can see why some people were so passionate about this trial because some news stations are really ramping up the emotions ... To me, this is the greatest tragedy of all."
Interesting. I think to most of us the "greatest tragedy of all" is that a 17 year old boy is DEAD, a kid who was doing nothing other than walking home when he was "sighted" by someone who decided he "looked suspicious."
I agree, it's sad that a child is dead. But worst of all the fat wannabe cop is alive and free smh
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