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Old 11-09-2007, 01:30 PM
 
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Well, it appears I have more influence than I knew. Bhutto's house arrest has been lifted!

Pakistan's Bhutto released from house arrest - Yahoo! News (broken link)
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Old 11-09-2007, 06:54 PM
 
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No surprise there -- except that it took so long.

I hear rumblings of an imminent Al Qaeda coup. Any confirmation of this?
An Al Qaeda coup? I doubt that very much. The military may not be the biggest fan of America, but they like us over Al Qaeda. The urban areas in Pakistan are pretty Westernized as far as Islamic nations go.
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Old 11-09-2007, 06:55 PM
 
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Can't ever be certain but I think he was kidding.


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An Al Qaeda coup? I doubt that very much. The military may not be the biggest fan of America, but they like us over Al Qaeda. The urban areas in Pakistan are pretty Westernized as far as Islamic nations go.
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Old 11-09-2007, 07:05 PM
 
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An Al Qaeda coup? I doubt that very much. The military may not be the biggest fan of America, but they like us over Al Qaeda. The urban areas in Pakistan are pretty Westernized as far as Islamic nations go.
Don't sweat it, Al Qaeda doesn't have enough people in Pakistan, apparently they are all in Chicago and Los Angeles planning to ruin the shopping season.

Exclusive: FBI: Al Qaeda May Strike U.S. Shopping Malls in LA, Chicago

The FBI is warning that al Qaeda may be preparing a series of holiday attacks on U.S. shopping malls in Los Angeles and Chicago, according to an intelligence report distributed to law enforcement authorities across the country this morning.

The Blotter: Exclusive: FBI: Al Qaeda May Strike U.S. Shopping Malls in LA, Chicago
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Old 11-10-2007, 01:24 PM
 
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With the president taking totalitarian power Pakistan could potentially end up with a situation like that of the Shah in Iran, another unpopular US supported dictator who jailed and persecuted much of his moderate/liberal educated opposition... the remaining opponents could potentially band together with the Taliban (like the secular revolutionaries in Iran banded together with Khomeini) to topple his dictatorship with a coup, which would then result in a power struggle between the more secular types and Islamists that would hopefully go one way but could potentially go another. I think with democracy the scenario would be far less likely to play out that way.
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Old 11-10-2007, 01:26 PM
 
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With the president taking totalitarian power Pakistan could potentially end up with a situation like that of the Shah in Iran, another unpopular US supported dictator who jailed and persecuted much of his moderate/liberal educated opposition... the remaining opponents could potentially band together with the Taliban (like the secular revolutionaries in Iran banded together with Khomeini) to topple his dictatorship with a coup, which would then result in a power struggle between the more secular types and Islamists that would hopefully go one way but could potentially go another. I think with democracy the scenario would be far less likely to play out that way.
When did he relinquish totalitarian power? I missed that.
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Old 11-10-2007, 01:30 PM
 
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I should have said "refusing to follow the law by risking losing power," or "increasing his totalitarian power" by shutting down all opposition media, cancelling elections, jailing protesters and opposition leaders, basically abandoning any semblance of democracy that existed a few weeks ago. Not that Pakistan was a democracy a few weeks ago, but Musharraf could have taken the country in that direction... instead he's moving it in the opposite one.
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Old 11-10-2007, 03:06 PM
 
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Can't ever be certain but I think he was kidding.
Why would I be kidding? The Al Qaeda are running around the border regions. When they take Islamabad (which would be over the dead bodies of many thousand Pakistani soldiers), I will be worried. Until then, they are just over-zealous people in the countryside. Nations in this part of the world are ruled from their urban areas. The nuclear wepons, are controlled by men in the cities. The governemnt and military, are run through the cities. The terrorists may want to prove that they can take Kabul first. For the forseeable future, they will control neither.
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Old 11-10-2007, 03:07 PM
 
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I wasn't referring to you...but another poster...who I believe was kidding! And was referring you to his kidding......


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Why would I be kidding? The Al Qaeda are running around the border regions. When they take Islamabad (which would be over the dead bodies of many thousand Pakistani soldiers), I will be worried. Until then, they are just over-zealous people in the countryside. Nations in this part of the world are ruled from their urban areas. The nuclear wepons, are controlled by men in the cities. The governemnt and military, are run through the cities. The terrorists may want to prove that they can take Kabul first. For the forseeable future, they will control neither.
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Old 11-11-2007, 03:35 PM
 
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Well, it appears I have more influence than I knew. Bhutto's house arrest has been lifted!

Pakistan's Bhutto released from house arrest - Yahoo! News (broken link)
Well it looks as if our propped up lil tin pot dictator isn't very popular these days.

"We blame the U.S. directly for keeping us under the rule of the military," said Arfan Ghani, a 54-year-old professor of architecture. Musharraf, who heads Pakistan's army, is just "another dictator," Ghani told an American reporter, "serving the interests of your country."

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