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View Poll Results: Which tax would you eliminate if you could?
Income tax 42 48.28%
Property tax 22 25.29%
Sales tax 12 13.79%
Other 9 10.34%
None 2 2.30%
Voters: 87. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-18-2013, 12:20 PM
 
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Where did I say I "wanted to kick retired renters on the street while [i] protect homeowners"? I don't recall even mentioning renters. You have put words into my mouth.
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Property tax for retirees on limited income.

Exactly, you said you wanted to eliminate property tax for (homeowner) retirees on limited income, but made no mention of renter retirees on limited income, therefore I presume you have no problem with taxing renter retirees on limited income out of their homes, and thus kicking them to the curb..
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:20 PM
 
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Sales. That's an easy call.

I'd just go with a national VAT
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:21 PM
 
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A renter has every right to not pay and leave. A homeowner cannot do that. you can't have all of the benefits of renting and none of the downsides.

If you don't like renting, stop renting and buy a place.
A homeowner can leave any time, no one forces a homeowner to stay in their home.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:26 PM
 
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A renter has every right to not pay and leave. A homeowner cannot do that. you can't have all of the benefits of renting and none of the downsides.

If you don't like renting, stop renting and buy a place.

Would love to buy a place, but class warfare makes home ownership in this country not scalable, and imposes formidable barriers to poor people who would like to buy a place.

A homeowner who claims to not be able to afford to pay property taxes can rent out their house to a renter who will bear the property taxes in the form of rent, while they themselves move to a cheaper place - no need to sell.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:34 PM
 
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Would love to buy a place, but class warfare makes home ownership in this country not scalable, and imposes formidable barriers to poor people who would like to buy a place.

A homeowner who claims to not be able to afford to pay property taxes can rent out their house to a renter who will bear the property taxes in the form of rent, while they themselves move to a cheaper place - no need to sell.
Class warfare has nothing to do with any of this. If you really wanted to buy a place, you would work to find a job where you work more than 20 hours per week, instead of claiming life isn't fair when you (as you have told us in other threads) aren't looking for a better paying job (or even a full time one for that matter). Home ownership is scalable if people put in extra effort to improve their circumstances to the point where they can afford to own a home.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:38 PM
 
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Class warfare has nothing to do with any of this. If you really wanted to buy a place, you would work to find a job where you work more than 20 hours per week, instead of claiming life isn't fair when you (as you have told us in other threads) aren't looking for a better paying job (or even a full time one for that matter). Home ownership is scalable if people put in extra effort to improve their circumstances to the point where they can afford to own a home.

I'm one of those actively disengaged from my job, the psychic cost is high.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:41 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Inspired by a discussion in the thread about L.A. planning regarding tradeoffs on taxes, and whether high property taxes and low or nonexistent sales taxes and income taxes is better than low property taxes and high income and sales taxes.

If you could eliminate one tax in your state, which would it be?
Income tax is too progressive against single people with no kids. Why should someone who pops out a bunch of kids be entitled to a life of paying zero income tax? Thanks ex-President Bush.
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Old 07-18-2013, 01:10 PM
 
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Property tax. It's insane that the states actually own our real property.
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Old 07-18-2013, 03:08 PM
 
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A homeowner can leave any time, no one forces a homeowner to stay in their home.
Yes and no. Moving when you are an owner can carry huge financial losses. The same can't be said for renting.

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I'm one of those actively disengaged from my job, the psychic cost is high.
So stop blaming the system when the problem is that you aren't trying to improve your situation.
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Old 07-18-2013, 03:12 PM
 
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Inheritance tax
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