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Old 07-14-2013, 03:07 AM
 
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You are all about no welfare for the poor, and giving tax cuts to the rich (you will NEVER get me to join you.)
And if I post an old post of mine that defends welfare what would you say then?

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Education matters.


FACT #2: The Racial/Ethnic Groups That Are the Least Educated Are the Fastest Growing.
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Old 07-14-2013, 03:12 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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At least those people are producing something other than racial hate and crime. Just sayin'. Don't bite the feeding hand.
Small and medium size businesses produce the (overwhelming) majority of new American jobs.

Americas rich and large corporations are moving their American factories to Asia (so they can get cheaper labor.)


Also there are no spending regulations on republican "supply side" tax cuts. Americas rich can use that money anyway they want too. Americas rich use their republican tax cuts to build factories in Asia, and they use that money to buy things like private jet airplanes.

Why do you want to give rich people trillions of dollars of tax cuts?

Not to mention that 100% of the cost of those tax cuts gets added to Americas national debt.

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Old 07-14-2013, 03:22 AM
 
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You are all about no welfare for the poor, and giving tax cuts to the rich (you will NEVER get me to join you.)
Lookie, lookie, I got a cookie. Might want to wipe the egg off your face.

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So far we have added less than under Bush, albeit marginally, and corporate profits are at record levels. I have yet to see an economist criticize the validity of a food stamp program, but there are plenty that say it should be expanded or some other stimulus should be injected into the economy.

http://www.economy.com/mark-zandi/do...mpact-2008.pdf
Nobel Prize Economist: Obama's Stimulus 'Not Enough' | Media Research Center
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You make it seem like living in poverty is going to give you some great lifestyle and that is simply not true. Each society has a duty to their citizens

Housing? Good luck even getting on the waiting list. Most cities have waiting lists that have been closed for years. Every now and again they will open up, but usually only for a few hours or weeks at a time.

Food? This seems like the least that can be done for someone. Why in the world would we want to live somewhere that lets kids starve
?

Transportation? This is largely funded by donations and charities. There are some government programs designed to help people get cars, but they are pretty small programs. You can't criticize someone saying they should sell their car before they accept food stamps and then say it isn't your problem if they don't have transportation. I don't care hwat your stance is, but I do want some consistency.

Cable TV & internet? I have never heard of any program giving away these services. Utility companies and charities offer reduced rates, usually during winter months, so people don't die. In very warm areas charities give away fans and AC units.

Cell phone? These are very limited in scope with a very limited number of minutes. Most people won't qualify for a free phone.
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Most people aren't buying overpriced food like the person in your example and most people aren't selling food stamps.
The net effect of food stamps is that it results in approximately $1.73 in economic activity.

Non-refundable lump-sum tax rebate 1.02
Refundable lump-sum tax rebate 1.26

Temporary tax cuts
payroll tax holiday 1.29
Across the board tax cut 1.03
Accelerated depreciation 0.27

Permanent tax cuts
Extend alternative minimum tax patch 0.48
Make Bush income tax cuts permanent 0.29
Make dividend and capital gains tax cuts permanent 0.37
Cut in corporate tax rate 0.30

Spending Increases
Extending UI benefits 1.64
Temporary increase in food stamps 1.73
General aid to state governments 1.36
Increased infrastructure spending 1.59

http://www.economy.com/mark-zandi/do...mpact-2008.pdf
Policy Basics: Introduction to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
Food stamps: The struggle to eat | The Economist



Don't be stupid. If you are working and get laid off or hours are reduced then it is better for you to have foods stamps and eat than to not eat.


We are talking about food stamps and the macro effect not the micro effect of privileged kids with daddy's' C.C.
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Old 07-14-2013, 03:23 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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And if I post an old post of mine that defends welfare what would you say then?



Education matters.


FACT #2: The Racial/Ethnic Groups That Are the Least Educated Are the Fastest Growing.
Looking back I think I owe you an apology, for not more carefully reading and responding to your posts, I apologize.

I am tired, thinking about some personal stuff, and a bit short tempered at this moment.

I don't mean to embarrass you, but I am actually quite impressed with your professional handling of my present behavior. And thank you for taking the time to speak with me in this forum.

Have a good one lycos679,
Chad.
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Old 07-14-2013, 03:30 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Lookie, lookie, I got a cookie. Might want to wipe the egg off your face.
You ...................

Take care of yourself Lycos.
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Old 07-14-2013, 03:39 AM
 
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This seems more like a personal message correspondence between you two, so I'll just let myself out...
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Old 07-14-2013, 04:32 AM
 
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How about the whole War on Drugs, where drug (such as a common charge of Marijuana ) get you 20 plus years, while child molesters are out on good behavior in 3 years.
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Old 07-14-2013, 04:38 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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poverty (definition)- the state or condition of having little or no money.

You said "Giving people money doesn't solve or eliminate poverty."

Could someone say something more stupid?
Thinking that giving someone money will eliminate poverty is about as stupid as it gets.
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Old 11-03-2013, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Fairfax County, VA
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Make it a requirement that anyone who wants to become a police officer has to have at least a bachelors degree.
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