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Old 02-13-2014, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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^ LOL...thug threatens man and he is a racist for defending himself...classic..blame everyone but the person in the wrong.
Were you there???

 
Old 02-13-2014, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Because, the jury may be shown evidence off camera.

In fact, when there is physical evidence, they do view it and you will not see it.

Even if you are witnessing the trial in the courtroom, you are not privy to everything that the jury has seen or heard, and even less so if you viewing a livestream.
Actually all of the physical evidence was on camera, except the autopsy photos. Everything else was shown on a computer screen and directly streamed. It is a moving camera, not stationary. It follows the witnesses, or the evidence as shown.
 
Old 02-13-2014, 02:45 PM
 
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Harrier isn't trying to convince anyone of anything concerning Dunn's actions.

Harrier has no opinion.

Whether Dunn is guilty or not guilty is up to the jury.

Why can't you be similarly objective?

Let's wait until all the jury decides the facts before forming the lynching party.
TY very much for explaining that a verdict of guilty or not guilty is up to the jury. I thought the judge would count the opinions on this thread and announce the verdict. Because I'm not on the jury, and didn't watch the whole trial, I was reluctant to express an opinion. Thanks to your profound sentence, I feel free to say --- Guilty.
 
Old 02-13-2014, 02:47 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I understand what Harrier is getting at.

If someone robs a store, it would be silly for them to call the police and report the crime.

Dunn committed a criminal act and had no obligation to tell the police about it.

Dunn is a criminal and criminals don't notify the police of their crime(s).
 
Old 02-13-2014, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Sinkholeville
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I still think the jury needs to be subjected to the exact same music at the exact same volume for the same duration.

Audio assault.

 
Old 02-13-2014, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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I understand what Harrier is getting at.

If someone robs a store, it would be silly for them to call the police and report the crime.

Dunn committed a criminal act and had no obligation to tell the police about it.

Dunn is a criminal and criminals don't notify the police of their crime(s).
But Dunn is claiming self defense, he is claiming that he is not a criminal. By fleeing, and not calling the police, he makes himself appear like a criminal, not someone shooting in self defense.
 
Old 02-13-2014, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Because you would be a wanted criminal and there would be a warrant out for your arrest? Then when the cops show up at your door tell them you didn't see any reason to notify or involve them. Would love to see any cop's reaction to such an idiotic statement although it might get you a spot on World's Dumbest.
Actually, no one is a criminal unless they have been convicted of a crime in a court of law.

Warrants are not supposed to be issued "but upon probable cause, supported by Oath and affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized".

The quote comes from the 4th Amendment.

Furthermore, a warrant must be signed by a judge.

So, one would not be a wanted criminal in the above case, nor would a warrant necessarily have been issued.

Given that those were you supporting reasons, you have not explained why anyone should be obligated to call the cops.
 
Old 02-13-2014, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Originally Posted by Fox Terrier View Post
I understand what Harrier is getting at.

If someone robs a store, it would be silly for them to call the police and report the crime.

Dunn committed a criminal act and had no obligation to tell the police about it.

Dunn is a criminal and criminals don't notify the police of their crime(s).
That is part of it, although Harrier disagrees that Dunn is a criminal - yet.

If he is convicted of first degree murder, then you can rightfully call him a convicted criminal.

No one has any obligation to be take action that might possibly incriminate themselves, per the 5th Amendment, but that isn't the extent to what Harrier is getting at.

Harrier sees no reason for anyone to ever involve the cops under any circumstances.
 
Old 02-13-2014, 02:57 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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But Dunn is claiming self defense, he is claiming that he is not a criminal. By fleeing, and not calling the police, he makes himself appear like a criminal, not someone shooting in self defense.
Yes, he is acting exactly like a criminal.

Actions speak louder than words.

If this jury comes back with an acquittal, I'm going to start a petition to rescind statehood for Florida!
 
Old 02-13-2014, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Yes, he is acting exactly like a criminal.
Please thoroughly define what constitutes "acting like a criminal".
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