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Old 07-15-2013, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I'm culturally Russian and American. I just want to see if I can get some AA benefits.
AA is free. You can join the local group any time you want. They are very supportive from what I hear.

 
Old 07-15-2013, 08:17 AM
 
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AA is free. You can join the local group any time you want. They are very supportive from what I hear.
Hahahah. Not that type of AA; I can handle my vodka quite well.
 
Old 07-15-2013, 08:27 AM
 
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As some people here are someone of saying, Hispanic/Latino/a is not a race. Because he is white he is white Hispanic. If he were half black and half Latino he'd be afro-latino.

Obama is half white and half black because both of those are races although most would call him black due to the color of his skin.

Whites, for the most part, seem to be an exclusionary bunch. You cannot be labeled white unless you're full white. If a person is a mixture of white and some other race then other race is usually used as a signifier to distinguish that person as separate from whiteness. A half white half Asian would be seen as Asian. A half white half Latino/a would be seen as Latino/a. And, as is the case with Obama, a half white half black would be considered black.
"Hispanic" ain't a race: some are full "white". Hell; even some "full blood" Asians are pasty white in skin color and if they had a child with light skin anglo white, that child would be called "white".
 
Old 07-15-2013, 08:35 AM
 
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Not unless he can actually trace his lineage back to a Latin American country or Spain within 1-2 generations. See, this always gets me. I have a friend who abused this in college applications. He is half 3/4 Irish, 1/4 Cuban (his grandfather on his dads side immigrated to the US from Cuba in the early 1900s). For all intents and purposes, he is white. He has light brown hair, green eyes, and pasty white skin. He does not speak Spanish. He does not identify with Cuba in any way, shape or form. Why should he benefit from AA (aff action) in college admissions when his parents always spoke English? He never experienced poverty either, and graduated from one of the most selective prep schools. Checking the Hispanic box would be fraud.
It ain't right but it ain't "fraud" because La Raza tries to claim ANYBODY who's got just a bit of "Hispanic" in their family IF it makes La Raza look good. But La Raza doesn't want to claim someone like Phillip Garrido who raped Jaycee Dugard or Leander Perez, 1 of Bull Connor's pals in the old Jim Crow South.
 
Old 07-15-2013, 08:50 AM
 
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Ok, so in other words I can check the Hispanic box anytime there is a form with race on it correct? None of my government ID's have my race on them.
You won't find Hispanic listed under any racial catagories. It is a question about ethnicity.
 
Old 07-15-2013, 08:52 AM
 
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Old glory, you are incorrect. Zimmerman is NOT Jewish. Just because someone has a Jewish sounding last name, does not make him Jewish. (Jewish Or Not: Wondering if a Celebrity is a Jew?: Is George Zimmerman Jewish?).

Might be helpful to get a refresher on the definitions of race, nationality and ethnicity as well. GZ identified himself as Peruvian-American because his racial background is from Peru (on his mothers side) but he was born in the US (which does make him an American). Nowadays, you can still call yourself "__-American" even if you can't trace your roots back to the original Mayflower.


Ethnicity vs Race - Difference and Comparison | Diffen
I was speaking strictly of his ancestry on his father's side. His father is Jewish. I am well aware that he identifies with his mother's Hispanic side.
 
Old 07-15-2013, 09:07 AM
 
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mutt..
 
Old 07-15-2013, 09:10 AM
 
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"White Hispanic" suited the media for the propaganda they fed the people.
 
Old 07-15-2013, 09:14 AM
 
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I'm culturally Russian and American. I just want to see if I can get some AA benefits.
You already get plenty of "benefits" and advantages as a white man.
 
Old 07-15-2013, 09:17 AM
 
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You won't find Hispanic listed under any racial catagories. It is a question about ethnicity.
Hispanic is a racial category for employment applications.
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