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Old 07-17-2013, 08:23 PM
 
Location: 60630
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How do you determine the value of an organ before a person is done using it?
You don't. Obviously there is more to it....lol
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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Yes. Corporations would buy the river so they could pollute it. Corporations run on the bottom line only. People and resources are only a means for them to increase their bottom line and that is all.
Yep and government does a better job of not polluting water. lols.

What's "17,000 containers of radioactive waste, 19 ships containing radioactive waste, 14 nuclear reactors, including five that still contain spent nuclear fuel; 735 other pieces of radiactively contaminated heavy machinery, and the K-27 nuclear submarine with its two reactors loaded with nuclear fuel." between friends? lols.

At least if a company did this they would be forced to clean it up and someone would go to jail. Government does it without care or consequence.

Russia Dumped 17 Nuclear Reactors and Tons of Waste in the Arctic | Earth First! Newswire
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Old 07-18-2013, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Only those people wealthy enough to buy a healthy organ will benefit. The middle class will only be able to afford an organ donated from an old sick person. The poor will be donating kidneys to eat and committing suicide so that the sale of their other organs will feed the family.
You made this up. According to you only old sick people donate and poor people will commit suicide. Really? Every single person who would normally donate won't except the old and sick? What color is the sky where you live?
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Old 07-18-2013, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Ron Paul is senile.
Yea the only candidate who told us about the collapse if we manipulate the free market in housing and was right? The only candidate who told us our foreign policy makes us less safe and he was right.
If he's senile what does that make you? Brain dead or just someone who has no problem making things up and deceitfully passing it off as the truth?
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Old 07-18-2013, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Won't mean more organs. It will mean organs going to the wealthy instead of the most sick. The only reason this concept is supported by some here is because Ron Paul endorsed it. If Obama suggested it, you would be crying death panels!
We're not the lemmings who believe the constant lies politicians tell and keep doing the same things over and over yet expect different results. If you want to find out who does, look in the mirror. We hold people accountable.
But keep making things up if it helps you sleep at night.
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Old 07-18-2013, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Oh good grief! Even most of the organs from freewill donors cannot be used due to the manner of their death. Bones and corneas can always be used but generally lives do not depend on those. The older and sicker a person becomes, the less valuable their organs will be. In fact, their organs will be a liability because after an expensive transplant surgery and recovery, these organs will soon fail. If a lot of people begin selling one of their kidneys for cash, they themselves will have a higher risk of kidney failure later.

What has the free market done to the price of oil? LOL!
Do you ever watch the news or were you in a coma the past decade? How did bypassing the free market do for Housing? LOL!!

The free market drove the price way down in electricity where I live. ~ Five years ago we were paying as much as 17 cents a KWH, now its almost half that.
Unless you know what you're talking about it's smart to keep quiet. I'm not saying you'll do that, just that it's smart.

Your entire point is that donated peoples organs are bad. Guess what, that's the only way we are doing it now. Hellllooooooooooo
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Old 07-18-2013, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Texas
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No family member wanted to give you a kidney? You could have offered them cash or to be put in your will or whatever.
Your message has been people shouldn't sell their organs but now your advice is "You could have offered them cash" LMAO Keep posting I can use the laughs.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:14 PM
 
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At least if a company did this they would be forced to clean it up and someone would go to jail.
Your naivete, it's heartwarming. Do you know what a Superfund site is?
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Old 07-18-2013, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Do you ever watch the news or were you in a coma the past decade? How did bypassing the free market do for Housing? LOL!!

The free market drove the price way down in electricity where I live. ~ Five years ago we were paying as much as 17 cents a KWH, now its almost half that.
Unless you know what you're talking about it's smart to keep quiet. I'm not saying you'll do that, just that it's smart.

Your entire point is that donated peoples organs are bad. Guess what, that's the only way we are doing it now. Hellllooooooooooo
FYI, body organs and kilowatts are not the same. Again, donated organs have no value until after a person is dead and then, they only have value if a person is brain dead while the heart and lungs are supported to circulate these organs. This eliminates most of the organs of people who volunteered to donate.

Would you want a heart transplanted into you from a person who was found dead?
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Old 07-18-2013, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Texas
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FYI, body organs and kilowatts are not the same.
No one said they were. That's another thing you're making up. My comment was on your false statement that the free market raises prices.

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Again, donated organs have no value until after a person is dead and then, they only have value if a person is brain dead while the heart and lungs are supported to circulate these organs. This eliminates most of the organs of people who volunteered to donate.
Again you deflected from commenting on your absurd statement. A donated organ is no different than one sold for cash. Prove otherwise.

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Would you want a heart transplanted into you from a person who was found dead?
What I want is for you to quit going to Happy hour before you post. What does any of this have to do with your false premise that donated organs are much more useable and cash organs are not? You can't because like I said it's an absurd premise.
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